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From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] keywest: Convert to new-style i2c driver
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:34:40 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18926.58544.374626.696097@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090421114853.7a9d82c1@hyperion.delvare>

Jean Delvare writes:

> Not removing it now has a high risk of developers continuing to ignore
> the deprecation warnings and adding new legacy drivers, which I then
> must convert to the new model. This never ends.
> 
> I know my behavior may seem a bit rude, but apparently this is the only
> way to get things to actually happen. I've been waiting for over a year
> already!

I sympathize, but throwing disruptive changes into Linus' tree when
we're past -rc3 is not the way to solve the problem.

The way to solve the problem is to (a) publish a branch where you put
the stuff you're going to ask Linus to pull in the next merge window,
(b) push a commit there that removes the legacy interfaces, (c) ask
Stephen Rothwell to include that branch in linux-next.

The linux-next tree gets built for a wide range of architectures and
configs, and any breakages get noticed and fixed pretty quickly.
Getting the removal of the legacy interfaces into linux-next will do
more in a week than a year's worth of deprecation warnings. :)

> I don't think the risk is that high, at least not for sound drivers.
> The conversions are fairly easy and if something really went wrong,
> fixing it is a matter of minutes.

We're past -rc3 now.  This is not the time for pushing this sort of
change into Linus' tree.  Ask Linus if you don't believe me.

> I have converted all remaining drivers by now:
> http://i2c.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Legacy_drivers_to_be_converted
> It's really only a matter of getting them tested in time now. Given
> that most drivers are powermac ones, what I really need here is
> powermac users/maintainers to test my patches and report success or
> failure.

OK, but please work in your next branch and linux-next, not Linus'
tree.

Paul.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-22  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-20 20:56 [PATCH] keywest: Convert to new-style i2c driver Jean Delvare
2009-04-20 22:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-21  6:33   ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-21  9:33     ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-21  9:36       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-21  9:48     ` Jean Delvare
2009-04-21  9:56       ` Wolfram Sang
2009-04-22  9:34       ` Paul Mackerras [this message]
2009-04-22 12:04         ` Jean Delvare
2009-04-22 12:56           ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-22 14:24             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-23  9:54             ` Jean Delvare
2009-04-21  6:31 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-21  9:23   ` Jean Delvare
2009-04-21  9:30     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-21  9:44     ` Jean Delvare

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