From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Miller Subject: Re: Moderated list Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:34:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20071115.133404.14700546.davem@davemloft.net> References: <20071114.152315.134994547.davem@davemloft.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from sunset.davemloft.net (unknown [74.93.104.97]) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CC5247EB for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:34:05 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org To: perex@perex.cz Cc: tiwai@suse.de, rene.herman@keyaccess.nl, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org From: Jaroslav Kysela Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:56:38 +0100 (CET) > David, could I send you the list of subscribers on the alsa-devel list (in > a private e-mail) to move mailing list to vger without bothering all users > to resubscribe again (we did it several months ago, so the subscriber list > is quite clean)? I will redirect alsa-devel@alsa-project.org address then > to alsa-devel@vger.kernel.org (if it does not break any vger rules or spam > filtering on vger) to preserve alsa-devel list e-mail. We don't do this because: 1) If the user doesn't do the subscribe, they won't know how to unsubscribe. If you think this isn't an issue, after 10 years of co-running vger I can tell you it's a huge issue as they just spam the list owner, with requests to be removed. 2) Users generally get upset when you subscribe them to a site they did not get asked to be subscribed to. And yes this is true even if it's the same mailing list just at a new location. I apply this rule unilaterally to all new mailing lists hosted at vger, I'm not just singling out this case, believe me :-) So please ask the folks on the existing list to subscribe to the new one. Thank you.