From: Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@nokia.com>
To: "Nurkkala Eero.An (EXT-Offcode/Oulu)" <ext-Eero.Nurkkala@nokia.com>
Cc: "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
"alsa-devel@vger.kernel.org" <alsa-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/20] OMAP: McBSP: Add link DMA mode selection
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:01:24 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200908130901.25420.peter.ujfalusi@nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1250077713.16045.31.camel@eenurkka-desktop>
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 14:48:33 Nurkkala Eero.An (EXT-Offcode/Oulu) wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 13:45 +0200, ext Jarkko Nikula wrote:
> > The threshold based transfer will cause that omap_pcm_pointer will
> > loose a bit its accuracy. Probably irrelevant but still better to play
> > safe at least over one kernel release before making it default.
>
> No, it doesn't loose accuracy =) It's as accurate with both modes.
> The difference is, that the other does things in bursts;
In element mode it is kind of easy to estimate where the hardware actually in
the playback case (aplay -f dat /dev/zero):
omap_pcm_pointer returns 669, than the HW is around
669-512=157 (plus few samples).
In threshold mode you only know that the HW is playing in between 0-512,
512-1024 somewhere.
I know neither of these are accurate and these examples are quite
oversimplified, but there is a difference and that difference is quite
significant.
> that's called evolution rather than regression =)
Note that evolution can also introduce regression...
> That's how things will be in the future =)
I agree with you on this, since the threshold mode provides quite good power
saving benefits.
But on the other hand it would be still better to keep the element mode as
default for at least one release cycle.
If no report is coming about problems, than we can make the threshold mode for
McBSP2 as the default
--
Péter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-13 6:01 UTC|newest]
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[not found] <1248958183-15015-1-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 01/20] OMAP: McBSP: Provide functions for ASoC frame syncronization Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-2-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 02/20] OMAP: McBSP: Wakeups utilized Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-3-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 03/20] OMAP: McBSP: Change wakeup signals Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-4-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 04/20] OMAP: McBSP: Add IRQEN, IRQSTATUS, THRESHOLD2 and THRESHOLD1 registers Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-5-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 05/20] OMAP: McBSP: Retain McBSP FCLK clockactivity Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-6-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 06/20] OMAP: McBSP: Use appropriate value for startup delay Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-7-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 07/20] OMAP: McBSP: Add transmit/receive threshold handler Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-8-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 08/20] OMAP: McBSP: Create and export max_(r|t)x_thres property Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-9-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 09/20] OMAP3: McBSP: Lower the maximum buffersize for McBSP1, 3, 4, 5 Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-10-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 10/20] OMAP: McBSP: Rename thres sysfs symbols Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-11-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 11/20] OMAP: McBSP: Add link DMA mode selection Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-12-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 12/20] OMAP: McBSP: Configure NO IDLE mode for DMA mode different of threshold Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-13-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 13/20] OMAP: McBSP: Do not enable wakeups for no-idle mode Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-14-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 14/20] OMAP: McBSP: Disable all wakeups upon exit Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-15-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 15/20] OMAP: McBSP: Let element DMA mode hit retention also Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-16-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 16/20] ASoC: OMAP: Use McBSP threshold again Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-17-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 17/20] ASoC: OMAP: Make DMA 64 aligned Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-18-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 18/20] ASoC: OMAP: Enable DMA burst mode Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-19-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 19/20] ASoC: OMAP: Use DMA operating mode of McBSP Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-20-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 12:49 ` [PATCH 20/20] ASoC: Always syncronize audio transfers on frames Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <1248958183-15015-21-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
2009-07-30 18:57 ` Jarkko Nikula
2009-08-05 7:48 ` [PATCH 16/20] ASoC: OMAP: Use McBSP threshold again Jarkko Nikula
[not found] ` <20090805104856.ff3e0f31.jhnikula@gmail.com>
2009-08-10 8:53 ` Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <20090810085355.GA23461@esdhcp037198.research.nokia.com>
2009-08-11 5:34 ` Jarkko Nikula
2009-08-11 6:22 ` Eduardo Valentin
2009-08-06 12:00 ` [PATCH 12/20] OMAP: McBSP: Configure NO IDLE mode for DMA mode different of threshold Eduardo Valentin
2009-07-30 13:04 ` [PATCH 11/20] OMAP: McBSP: Add link DMA mode selection Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20090730130442.GD9975@sirena.org.uk>
2009-07-30 13:28 ` Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <20090730132808.GA22978@esdhcp037198.research.nokia.com>
2009-07-30 13:47 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20090730134725.GA29631@rakim.wolfsonmicro.main>
2009-08-03 10:15 ` Eduardo Valentin
2009-08-05 7:39 ` Jarkko Nikula
[not found] ` <20090805103900.5ad89efe.jhnikula@gmail.com>
2009-08-05 8:58 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2009-08-06 18:15 ` [alsa-devel] " ext-Eero.Nurkkala
2009-08-07 13:11 ` Eduardo Valentin
2009-08-11 6:04 ` Jarkko Nikula
2009-08-11 6:18 ` [alsa-devel] " Eero Nurkkala
2009-08-12 11:45 ` Jarkko Nikula
2009-08-12 11:48 ` [alsa-devel] " Eero Nurkkala
2009-08-13 6:01 ` Peter Ujfalusi [this message]
2009-08-13 20:46 ` snd_pcm_delay, hw buffers and driver api (was: Re: [PATCH 11/20] OMAP: McBSP: Add link DMA mode selection) Kai Vehmanen
2009-08-13 20:59 ` Mark Brown
2009-07-30 18:57 ` [PATCH 09/20] OMAP3: McBSP: Lower the maximum buffersize for McBSP1, 3, 4, 5 Jarkko Nikula
[not found] ` <20090730215721.a899e2f4.jhnikula@gmail.com>
2009-07-31 7:58 ` Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <20090731075823.GB27083@esdhcp037198.research.nokia.com>
2009-07-31 17:26 ` Jarkko Nikula
[not found] ` <20090731202611.c689c31c.jhnikula@gmail.com>
2009-08-03 8:11 ` Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <20090803081107.GA1333@esdhcp037198.research.nokia.com>
[not found] ` <20090803113638.f82699b2.jhnikula@gmail.com>
2009-08-03 8:36 ` Eduardo Valentin
2009-08-03 8:36 ` Jarkko Nikula
2009-08-06 12:10 ` [PATCH 07/20] OMAP: McBSP: Add transmit/receive threshold handler Tony Lindgren
[not found] ` <20090806121039.GL2358@atomide.com>
2009-08-06 12:20 ` ext-Eero.Nurkkala
2009-07-30 18:56 ` [PATCH 06/20] OMAP: McBSP: Use appropriate value for startup delay Jarkko Nikula
2009-07-31 7:21 ` ext-Eero.Nurkkala
[not found] ` <1FFEF31EBAA4F64B80D33027D4297760047DF3D65A@NOK-EUMSG-02.mgdnok.nokia.com>
2009-07-31 17:25 ` Jarkko Nikula
[not found] ` <1FFEF31EBAA4F64B80D33027D4297760047F6AED00@NOK-EUMSG-02.mgdnok.nokia.com>
2009-08-06 12:24 ` [PATCH 07/20] OMAP: McBSP: Add transmit/receive threshold handler Tony Lindgren
2009-08-05 7:40 ` [PATCH 03/20] OMAP: McBSP: Change wakeup signals Peter Ujfalusi
2009-07-30 18:56 ` [PATCH 02/20] OMAP: McBSP: Wakeups utilized Jarkko Nikula
[not found] ` <20090730215602.8fdcbaf1.jhnikula@gmail.com>
2009-07-31 7:56 ` Eduardo Valentin
[not found] ` <20090731075622.GA27083@esdhcp037198.research.nokia.com>
[not found] ` <20090806120525.GJ2358@atomide.com>
2009-08-06 12:00 ` Eduardo Valentin
2009-08-06 12:05 ` Tony Lindgren
2009-08-06 12:00 ` Tony Lindgren
[not found] ` <20090806120047.GH2358@atomide.com>
[not found] ` <20090806120209.GI2358@atomide.com>
2009-08-06 11:56 ` Eduardo Valentin
2009-08-06 12:02 ` Tony Lindgren
2009-08-05 7:18 ` [PATCH 01/20] OMAP: McBSP: Provide functions for ASoC frame syncronization Peter Ujfalusi
2009-07-30 13:52 ` [PATCH 00/20] OMAP ASoC changes in DMA utilization Mark Brown
2009-07-30 18:55 ` Jarkko Nikula
2009-07-30 19:11 ` Mark Brown
2009-08-05 7:23 ` Peter Ujfalusi
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