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From: Lennart Poettering <mznyfn@0pointer.de>
To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: Verifying mixer dB data/Invalid dB data from USB cards, especially Aureon 5.1 MkII
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:54:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100217125427.GB24165@tango.0pointer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f3252891002161944m197e60c1pbb600cab8e0fd483@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 17.02.10 11:44, Raymond Yau (superquad.vortex2@gmail.com) wrote:

> WHAT YOU NEED?
> 
>          a) A sound card where input and output are synchronous
>          b) A feedback cable that allows you to feed sound card output
> 
> 
> how do I know my sound card support synchronous playback and
> capture ?

We had a discussion about that on alsa-devel a month back or so. The
conclusion was basically that software may assume that playback and
capturing on the same card is clocked the same way and that is all
this tool needs.

> do you program able to find out whether the sound card support synchronous
> playback and  capture ?

No.

> do your result still valid if the sound card does not support synchronous
> playback and  capture ?

It's fine if there is a constant phase shift between what you play
back and record. What matters is that the clock of playback and clock
of capture have the same speed. The tool will sum up a recorded sample
window a couple of times to reduce the noise level below some
threshold, and for that to work we need to make sure that our sine
wave isn't shifted each time we sum it up.

> do the result different if I use analog loop back of the ac97 codec instead
> of a loop back cable ?

Presumably.

Lennart

-- 
Lennart Poettering                        Red Hat, Inc.
lennart [at] poettering [dot] net
http://0pointer.net/lennart/           GnuPG 0x1A015CC4

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-17 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-15 19:24 Verifying mixer dB data/Invalid dB data from USB cards, especially Aureon 5.1 MkII Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16  8:08 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-02-16  8:24   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-16 14:32     ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 14:40       ` Mark Brown
2010-02-16 15:40         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 15:49           ` Mark Brown
2010-02-16 16:29           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-16 21:07             ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 22:39               ` Mark Brown
2010-02-16 22:42                 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 23:38                   ` Mark Brown
2010-02-16 23:56                     ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 11:17                       ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 13:01                         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 13:15                           ` Mads Kiilerich
2010-02-17 11:55                       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-17 13:06                         ` Mark Brown
2010-03-20  7:58                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-18  1:48                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-18  2:37                         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-18  6:15                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-18 10:11                             ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-18 18:13                             ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-19  8:17                               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-19  9:40                                 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-19 10:57                                 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-19 15:13                                   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-21  3:49                                     ` Raymond Yau
     [not found]                                       ` <20100221193933.GA31800@tango.0pointer.de>
2010-02-23  4:47                                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-23 22:20                                           ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-24  1:52                                             ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-28  7:32                                             ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-23  5:12                                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-23  8:43                                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-21  4:01                                     ` Raymond Yau
     [not found]                                       ` <20100221192951.GD30380@tango.0pointer.de>
2010-02-23 10:08                                         ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-02-23 12:46                                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-23 22:32                                           ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-24  0:57                                             ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-24  9:00                                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-02-24 11:49                                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-24 12:07                                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-24  1:12                                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-24  3:49                                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-20  8:38                                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-25  3:34                                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-19 11:47                                 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-19 15:10                                   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-20  8:41                                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-24  7:30                                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-25 13:14                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-25  3:51                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-26  3:17                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-03-01  4:21                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-16 23:47                   ` Eliot Blennerhassett
2010-02-17  0:10                     ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17  0:43                       ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17  0:52                       ` Eliot Blennerhassett
2010-02-17 11:50                         ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17  9:04                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-17 12:06                         ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 13:15                           ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 13:32                             ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 13:06                         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 13:55                           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-17 14:12                             ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 14:35                             ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 16:17                               ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-26  9:38                             ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-17  7:37                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-18  2:11                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-26  0:45               ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-20  7:24             ` Raymond Yau
2010-03-26  4:26             ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-16 21:48           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-17  8:08             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-06-14  3:30         ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-16 16:09       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-16 14:26   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17  3:30     ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-17 15:19       ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-08  9:06         ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-16  8:32 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-16 10:36   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-17  3:44 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-17 12:54   ` Lennart Poettering [this message]
2010-02-26  5:18 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-27  1:07 ` Raymond Yau
2010-03-01  0:51 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-24 22:51 ` Raymond Yau

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