From: Lennart Poettering <mznyfn@0pointer.de>
To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: Verifying mixer dB data/Invalid dB data from USB cards, especially Aureon 5.1 MkII
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:13:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100218181322.GB5606@tango.0pointer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f3252891002172215j7b85313ci3626a1bdad5c040c@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 18.02.10 14:15, Raymond Yau (superquad.vortex2@gmail.com) wrote:
> VLC media player has a slider from 0% to 300% , so the user are easily to
> know 100% is the point which there is no software gain and no software
> autentation
>
> How did PA expose these software amplication in the UI so that ordinary user
> can know that point ?
Depends on the UI program. gnome-volume-control currently only puts a
marker at the ALSA 0dB point, but not a second one where software amp
starts.
However, I have been talking to a couple of folks regarding presenting
that in a nicer way, i.e. colour slider ranges green/yellow/red:
http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/WritingVolumeControlUIs#Colouredvolumesliders
Summary: green → all hw vol control where alsa reports < 0dB; yellow →
hw control where alsa reports > 0dB; and finally red → software volume
control.
I think this color coding of the slider ranges is the best once can do
to represent the technical background of all of this in a way that
gives the right indication even for people with no technical background.
> For the Mic Boost +20dB case , how PA handle this +20dB switch in the "Flat
> Volume" model if you did not expost the Mic Boost switch to the user in the
> mixer control ?
>
> +20dB is quite significant in with the Capture Volume control
We currently don't cover boost switches, simply because tehre is no dB
data queriable for them.
I'd really prefer if those boost switches would be turned into binary
volume elements which carry normal dB information like any other
volume element. After all they are just a volume element, with only
two steps.
Lennart
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Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-15 19:24 Verifying mixer dB data/Invalid dB data from USB cards, especially Aureon 5.1 MkII Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 8:08 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-02-16 8:24 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-16 14:32 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 14:40 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-16 15:40 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 15:49 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-16 16:29 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-16 21:07 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 22:39 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-16 22:42 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 23:38 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-16 23:56 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 11:17 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 13:01 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 13:15 ` Mads Kiilerich
2010-02-17 11:55 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-17 13:06 ` Mark Brown
2010-03-20 7:58 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-18 1:48 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-18 2:37 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-18 6:15 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-18 10:11 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-18 18:13 ` Lennart Poettering [this message]
2010-02-19 8:17 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-19 9:40 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-19 10:57 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-19 15:13 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-21 3:49 ` Raymond Yau
[not found] ` <20100221193933.GA31800@tango.0pointer.de>
2010-02-23 4:47 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-23 22:20 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-24 1:52 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-28 7:32 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-23 5:12 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-23 8:43 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-21 4:01 ` Raymond Yau
[not found] ` <20100221192951.GD30380@tango.0pointer.de>
2010-02-23 10:08 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-02-23 12:46 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-23 22:32 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-24 0:57 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-24 9:00 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-02-24 11:49 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-24 12:07 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-24 1:12 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-24 3:49 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-20 8:38 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-25 3:34 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-19 11:47 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-19 15:10 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-20 8:41 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-24 7:30 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-25 13:14 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-25 3:51 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-26 3:17 ` Raymond Yau
2010-03-01 4:21 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-16 23:47 ` Eliot Blennerhassett
2010-02-17 0:10 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 0:43 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 0:52 ` Eliot Blennerhassett
2010-02-17 11:50 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 9:04 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-17 12:06 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 13:15 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 13:32 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 13:06 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 13:55 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-17 14:12 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 14:35 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 16:17 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-26 9:38 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-17 7:37 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-18 2:11 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-26 0:45 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-20 7:24 ` Raymond Yau
2010-03-26 4:26 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-16 21:48 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-17 8:08 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-06-14 3:30 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-16 16:09 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-16 14:26 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 3:30 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-17 15:19 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-08 9:06 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-16 8:32 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-16 10:36 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-17 3:44 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-17 12:54 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-26 5:18 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-27 1:07 ` Raymond Yau
2010-03-01 0:51 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-24 22:51 ` Raymond Yau
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