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From: Daniel Mack <daniel@caiaq.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Pedro Ribeiro <pedrib@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: USB transfer_buffer allocations on 64bit systems
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:14:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100412111439.GU30801@buzzloop.caiaq.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sk719hbm.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:59:57AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> writes:
> >> 
> >> The fix is to use usb_buffer_alloc() for that purpose which ensures
> >> memory that is suitable for DMA. And on x86_64, this also means that the
> >> upper 32 bits of the address returned are all 0's.
> >
> > That is not a good fix.  usb_buffer_alloc() provides coherent memory, 
> > which is not what we want.  I believe the correct fix is to specify the 
> > GFP_DMA32 flag in the kzalloc() call.
> 
> The traditional way to handle this is to leave it to swiotlb in
> pci_map_*. pci_map_* is needed anyways if you run with a IOMMU.
> 
> Also note at least on x86 systems coherent memory is the same as non coherent
> memory. And GFP_DMA32 is a x86 specific flag, doesn't necessarily 
> do any good anywhere else.
> 
> So if you add x86isms anyways you could as well use dma_alloc_coherent()
> directly which is actually better at this than a simple GFP_DMA32
> and as a bonus handles the IOMMUs correctly too.

Which is exactly what usb_buffer_alloc() does already. So at least for
x86 you say this is the right thing to do? However, we don't necessarily
need coherent memory on other platforms, which is why I hessitate to
enforce that type of memory for all transfer_buffer allocations.

> Or just use GFP_KERNEL and pci_map_* later.

The USB core does this already, but at least on Pedro's machine, this
seems unsufficient. Unfortunately, I can't reproduce the issue yet, even
with more than 4GB of RAM installed.

Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-12 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-07  9:06 USB transfer_buffer allocations on 64bit systems Daniel Mack
     [not found] ` <p2g581ef6d61004070220z1153d40ez955b356e01220848@mail.gmail.com>
2010-04-07  9:26   ` USB HID gadget driver (was: Re: USB transfer_buffer allocations on 64bit systems) Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 14:59 ` USB transfer_buffer allocations on 64bit systems Alan Stern
2010-04-07 15:11   ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 15:31     ` Greg KH
2010-04-07 15:35       ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 15:51         ` Greg KH
     [not found]           ` <20100407155122.GA13974-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-07 16:04             ` Alan Stern
2010-04-08  6:09         ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]           ` <201004080809.11756.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-08 11:07             ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 15:55       ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 16:16         ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 16:47           ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 17:55           ` Takashi Iwai
2010-04-07 17:59             ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 18:06               ` Takashi Iwai
2010-04-07 19:13             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004071452560.5760-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-07 23:59                 ` Robert Hancock
2010-04-12 11:17                 ` [PATCH] USB: rename usb_buffer_alloc() and usb_buffer_free() Daniel Mack
     [not found]                   ` <1271071045-3112-1-git-send-email-daniel-rDUAYElUppE@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-13 18:16                     ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]                       ` <20100413181631.GT30801-ahpEBR4enfnCULTFXS99ULNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-13 19:27                         ` Alan Stern
2010-04-13 20:26                           ` Greg KH
2010-04-13 21:47                             ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-08  0:33               ` USB transfer_buffer allocations on 64bit systems Greg KH
2010-04-09  0:01                 ` Robert Hancock
     [not found]                   ` <4BBE6E57.6020600-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-09 16:50                     ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-09 23:38                       ` Robert Hancock
2010-04-10  8:34                         ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-10 17:02                           ` [alsa-devel] " Robert Hancock
2010-04-12 18:56                             ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-12 20:39                               ` Robert Hancock
2010-04-12 20:58                                 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-07 17:52         ` Takashi Iwai
2010-04-07 15:46     ` Alan Stern
2010-04-08  6:12       ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]         ` <201004080812.04419.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-08 16:59           ` Alan Stern
2010-04-08 21:24             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-04-08 22:20               ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09  6:04                 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                   ` <201004090804.36213.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-09 14:41                     ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004091033150.1852-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-09 14:50                         ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                           ` <201004091650.31488.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-09 15:15                             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004091114500.1852-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-09 20:51                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-04-09 21:21                                   ` Alan Stern
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004071036060.1779-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-07 16:54     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]       ` <201004071854.55530.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-07 17:00         ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 23:55     ` Robert Hancock
     [not found]       ` <4BBD1B6F.3000205-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-08  2:10         ` Alan Stern
2010-04-08  7:30           ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]             ` <20100408073041.GO30801-ahpEBR4enfnCULTFXS99ULNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-08 16:57               ` Alan Stern
2010-04-08 17:17                 ` Pedro Ribeiro
     [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004081245330.1720-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-08 23:13                   ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-09 16:01                     ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 18:09                       ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]                         ` <20100409180942.GK30801-ahpEBR4enfnCULTFXS99ULNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-09 18:19                           ` Pedro Ribeiro
     [not found]                             ` <w2r74fd948d1004091119j9f33d8a6kc1824d9243abf38b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-09 19:34                               ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 20:14                                 ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004091529240.1852-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-09 20:25                                   ` [LKML] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
     [not found]                                     ` <20100409202533.GA8983-6K5HmflnPlqSPmnEAIUT9EEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-09 21:23                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 22:11                                         ` Robert Hancock
2010-04-12 10:48                                           ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-12 12:06                                             ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-10 12:49                             ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]                               ` <20100410124912.GP30801-ahpEBR4enfnCULTFXS99ULNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-10 13:21                                 ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-12  8:59   ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 11:14     ` Daniel Mack [this message]
     [not found]       ` <20100412111439.GU30801-ahpEBR4enfnCULTFXS99ULNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-12 11:53         ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 12:11           ` Pedro Ribeiro
     [not found]             ` <q2z74fd948d1004120511hebf19eaauc41ee9ed25dea19e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-12 12:12               ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 12:32                 ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-12 12:47                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 12:54                     ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-12 15:43                       ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                         ` <20100412154323.GP18855-qrUzlfsMFqo/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-12 16:17                           ` Alan Stern
2010-04-12 16:29                             ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 16:57                               ` Alan Stern
2010-04-12 17:15                                 ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]                                   ` <20100412171507.GB30801-ahpEBR4enfnCULTFXS99ULNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-12 17:22                                     ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 17:56                                       ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-12 17:52                                     ` [LKML] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-04-13 18:22                                 ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]                                   ` <20100413182233.GR30807-ahpEBR4enfnCULTFXS99ULNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-13 23:46                                     ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-14 10:09                                       ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-14 10:47                                         ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-14 11:02                                           ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-14 13:18                                           ` [LKML] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
     [not found]                                           ` <t2w74fd948d1004140347k3447bffapb73856eacddfde55-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-14 14:08                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-04-14 16:36                                               ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]                                                 ` <20100414163637.GV30807-ahpEBR4enfnCULTFXS99ULNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-14 17:21                                                   ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-15  7:35                                                     ` Daniel Mack
     [not found] <g2h74fd948d1004141820ladc1941eo732d059dd678df0a@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004151114490.1562-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
     [not found]   ` <t2r74fd948d1004191716l49dedc2p25a27da39bcc614a@mail.gmail.com>
2010-05-07  7:48     ` Daniel Mack
2010-05-07  9:47       ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-07 10:24         ` Daniel Mack
2010-05-07 14:51           ` [alsa-devel] " Alan Stern
2010-05-10  2:50             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-10  9:21               ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-07 11:42         ` [alsa-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2010-05-07 11:47           ` Oliver Neukum
2010-05-07 11:58             ` Daniel Mack

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