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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] allow up to 32 PCM devices
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 18:06:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100512100632.GA13304@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hbpclsdbu.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:01:57PM +0800, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Wed, 12 May 2010 16:39:50 +0800,
> Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 04:03:43PM +0800, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > At Wed, 12 May 2010 09:29:57 +0200 (CEST),
> > > Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 12 May 2010, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Reserve 32 minor numbers for PCM playback devices.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Intel SandyBridge HDMI audio codec provides 3 PCM devices with
> > > > > indices 3, 7, 8. Among which the device 8's minor number will be
> > > > > overlapped with the first capture device's minor number in the current
> > > > > static minor number allocation scheme.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also increase SNDRV_PCM_DEVICES to make pcm_dev_bits big enough to hold
> > > > > the increasing number of PCM devices.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't agree to have only 4 slots for soundcards in the static minor 
> > > > numbering. Maybe the driver should be converted to use subdevices or we 
> > > > might drop the static minor number allocation at all (it might have only 
> > > > impact for old distros).
> > 
> > Jaroslav, will there be so many sound cards in one system?
> 
> In the old time, yes.  Now we have less and less PCI slots.
> In theory, we may have lots of USB audio devices, though :)
> 
> Another possible solution would be to change the minor number
> assignment to a really dynamic one.  So far, due to legacy /dev/aload
> and co, we have some static restriction per card basis.

Another simple option is to "borrow" 2 slots from one of

- SNDRV_MINOR_HWDEP      :       has 4 slots 
- SNDRV_MINOR_RAWMIDI    :       has 8 slots
- SNDRV_MINOR_PCM_CAPTURE:       has 8 slots

What do you think?

> 
> > > Dropping such a base feature is really no good option.  Better to give
> > > simply an error for more than 8 PCMs in such a case, IMO.
> > 
> > Agreed.
> > 
> > > I also wonder whether having 4 individual PCMs is a way to go.  We may
> > > have PCM substreams, if any.  OTOH, the current IEC958 stream
> > > assignment mechanism doesn't consider multiple substreams well, e.g.
> > > we have no proper way to match the IEC958 status bits control to a PCM
> > > substream.
> > 
> > Hmm, what if there are two monitors attached, each want to play a
> > different music track?
> 
> PCM substreams are really independent from each other.  So,
> technically seen, substreams are feasible.
> 
> > I think the 3 HDMI devices are inherently independent. Each one can
> > have different hw rates, bits, and speaker allocation. And if
> > implemented as PCM substreams, how can the user space specify "please
> > play this music on this monitor"? AFAIK the windows driver also
> > exports 3 independent HDMI playback devices.
> 
> Yeah, as mentioned, SPDIF status mapping isn't provided properly as
> is.  Thus using PCM substreams may give some confusion indeed.

Can I ask a dumb question? Currently I select the target playback
device with the -D option:

        speaker-test -Dhw:0,3 

How can I do the job when PCM substreams are used?

Thanks,
Fengguang

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-12 10:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-12  1:30 [PATCH 0/5] updates for Intel SandyBridge/CougarPoint HDMI codec Wu Fengguang
2010-05-12  1:30 ` [PATCH 1/5] allow up to 32 PCM devices Wu Fengguang
2010-05-12  7:29   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-05-12  8:03     ` Takashi Iwai
2010-05-12  8:39       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-05-12  9:01         ` Takashi Iwai
2010-05-12 10:06           ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-05-13  0:05             ` Eliot Blennerhassett
2010-05-12 10:20           ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-12 10:55             ` Takashi Iwai
2010-05-13  2:21               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-05-14  8:21                 ` Takashi Iwai
2010-05-14  8:32                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-05-12  9:49       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-05-12  1:30 ` [PATCH 2/5] hda - allow up to 10 Azalia codecs Wu Fengguang
2010-05-12 14:35   ` Takashi Iwai
2010-05-13  3:03     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-05-12  1:30 ` [PATCH 3/5] intelhdmi - user friendly codec name Wu Fengguang
2010-05-12  1:30 ` [PATCH 4/5] intelhdmi - add id for the CougarPoint chipset Wu Fengguang
2010-05-12  1:30 ` [PATCH 5/5] hdmi - dont fail on extra nodes Wu Fengguang

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