From: Lennart Poettering <mznyfn@0pointer.de>
To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: wrong decibel data?
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:46:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100614184612.GD14916@tango.0pointer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinilBSWTBkBjoGK5CgDm-9cXJvMLwB-952FINle@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 14.06.10 17:54, Raymond Yau (superquad.vortex2@gmail.com) wrote:
> The base volume seem to be the software 0dB point , (no software
> gain/atten), but the user want the hardware 0dB point (no hardware
> gain/atten if the hardware can provide hardware gain
jeez man, this is nonsense.
In PA we call the max hw amplification 0dB. And then we extend things
both ways in software. And finally we mark the ALSA 0dB spot (i.e. the
*hardware* 0dB spot) as "base volume".
There is nothing lost here.
And you get a cookie if you read this:
http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/WritingVolumeControlUIs#BaseVolumes
and this:
http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/WritingVolumeControlUIs#Colouredvolumesliders
And then you'll notice that we actually thought about hw and sw volume
ranges quite a bit and nothing is lost. For example, our recommended
color-coded UI will mark the ALSA 0dB spot with a color transition from
green to yellow, to give the user an idea that things get worse beyond
that point, even if he doesn't understand dB or hw or sw volumes.
Please, just drop this thread now, and just read the wiki. Thanks.
Lennart
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Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-02 18:21 wrong decibel data? Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-02 20:25 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-03 10:09 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-04-03 10:48 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-05 0:15 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-05 8:29 ` Stereo Support in APLAY Reddy, MR Swami
2010-04-08 6:47 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-04-04 0:09 ` wrong decibel data? Raymond Yau
2010-04-04 1:31 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-06 0:07 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-08 1:35 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-16 13:48 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-17 9:31 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-04-21 2:32 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-21 8:06 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-04-22 1:16 ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-27 13:30 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-05-27 13:48 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-27 14:43 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-05-27 17:21 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-06 0:12 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-07 9:03 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-08 0:47 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-08 15:30 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-10 3:16 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-10 16:11 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-13 13:53 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-06-14 0:25 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14 8:33 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 8:38 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14 8:45 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14 10:17 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 18:38 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-06-14 8:56 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-06-14 9:54 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14 10:07 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-06-15 6:57 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14 18:46 ` Lennart Poettering [this message]
2010-06-14 10:22 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 10:46 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-06-14 11:03 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 11:29 ` Alan Horstmann
2010-06-14 12:36 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14 14:17 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 15:27 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-06-14 15:44 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 16:09 ` Mark Brown
2010-06-15 0:11 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-22 2:31 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-22 9:15 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-22 15:29 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-22 17:05 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-23 1:15 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-23 9:12 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-28 1:47 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-28 8:18 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-07-01 15:03 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14 18:54 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-06-14 18:49 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-06-14 23:43 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-15 16:10 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 18:41 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-06-08 4:01 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-08 15:40 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-05-28 2:37 ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-28 2:04 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-06 1:46 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-06 8:01 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-07 0:34 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-07 8:17 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-07 12:17 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-07 23:38 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-08 2:05 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-08 12:42 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-08 23:11 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09 7:30 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-09 11:37 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09 11:40 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09 12:27 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-06-24 9:53 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09 13:49 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09 13:59 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-09 18:35 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-10 0:27 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-10 9:27 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-10 9:41 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-10 23:32 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-11 0:02 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-11 9:00 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-15 3:38 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-14 1:39 ` Raymond Yau
[not found] ` <4BBF5F81.1010205@yellowcouch.org>
2010-04-09 23:32 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-10 6:56 ` Werner Van Belle
2010-04-10 7:23 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-10 4:25 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-10 6:59 ` Werner Van Belle
2010-04-10 0:11 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-17 0:40 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09 0:49 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09 1:35 ` Raymond Yau
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