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From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Subject: Re: alsactl adds volume controls?
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:36:56 -0700
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 08:09:32PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> Mark Brown wrote:

> > Is this perhaps just an error in the TLV information - should it be
> > flagging that the minimim gain is mute but isn't?

> There is no clear (or consistent) definition in HD-audio codec, I guess.

Oh, fail.  Of course, a sufficient attenuation is indistinguishable from
mute anyway which complicates matters a little.