From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jonathan Nieder Subject: Re: multiple, non-physically accesible, HDMI devices listed for Intel IbexPeak ALC269VB Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:52:06 -0600 Message-ID: <20120222215206.GA3517@burratino> References: <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF17BD8BC635@HQMAIL01.nvidia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mail-iy0-f179.google.com (mail-iy0-f179.google.com [209.85.210.179]) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id F354A103ED6 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:52:15 +0100 (CET) Received: by iabz21 with SMTP id z21so657378iab.38 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:52:13 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF17BD8BC635@HQMAIL01.nvidia.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org To: Stephen Warren Cc: "tiwai@suse.de" , Andres Cimmarusti , "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" , "660111@bugs.debian.org" <660111@bugs.debian.org>, "David Henningsson (david.henningsson@canonical.com)" List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org Stephen Warren wrote: > As Takashi mentions, from a kernel perspective, this isn't really a > regression at all, but simply exposing all the features of the HW that > were previously hidden. Without that change, others can't use some HW > usefully at all. Unfortunately, pulseaudio makes some rather simplistic > assumptions about how HW works by default, and can be confused by the > additional features that are exposed. >>From a distro perspective, it's a regression that happens to be bundled with a feature. Though from a distro perspective working around this in pulseaudio and making sure even old releases get the fix might be okay. I thought that "no regressions" meant that the first sentence and not the second sentence of the previous paragraph apply from a kernel perspective. No? So I would be happiest if there is some way to teach the kernel about this quirk until everyone already has had a fixed pulseaudio for a year or two. Jonathan