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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Tabi Timur-B04825 <B04825@freescale.com>,
	Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/20] ASoC: fsl: make fsl_ssi driver	compilable on ARM/IMX
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:52:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120306135259.GJ17370@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120306133818.GV19635@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>

On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 01:38:18PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 02:26:28PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > Mark Brown wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 12:25:16PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> 
> > > whenever you need to call back into the ALSA APIs.  Though of course I'm
> > > pretty sure there's a bunch of uniprocessor assumptions through the body
> > > of driver code anyway...
> 
> > Not that much actually.  On the contrary, because of the current
> > design allowing concurrent accesses, many codes have been written
> > rather in too complex and messy ways.  It could have been much
> > simplified if we didn't consider the concurrent accesses to each
> > substream.
> 
> Right, but I'm fairly sure that at least some of the driver code is
> relying on uniprocessor assumptions for what it's doing

Mark,

Stop using the term "uniprocessor assmptions".

Thinking that something is safe because you're running on a uniprocessor
system is total bollocks at every level.

You can get other threads scheduled on a uniprocessor system because you
happen to have called a function which has slept beneath you.  As you
later mention in your reply, preempt.  Preempt will effectively turn a
UP system into an effective SMP system as far as proper locking goes.

So, to talk about "uniprocessor assumptions" is at best misleading, but
is totally and utterly wrong.  Please stop mudding the issue with your
system programming misunderstandings.

What you mean is "single threaded assumptions".  Please use this term
instead - it's what you actually mean.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-06 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-03 15:19 [PATCH 00/20] ASoC: add imx-sgtl5000 machine driver working with fsl_ssi Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 01/20] ASoC: imx: move eukrea audmux call into ASoC machine driver Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 02/20] ASoC: imx: move phycore " Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 03/20] ARM: imx: merge audmux-v1 and audmux-v2 Shawn Guo
2012-03-05  0:22   ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-03-05  7:33     ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 04/20] ARM: imx: convert audmux to a platform driver Shawn Guo
2012-03-04 19:00   ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-05  7:35     ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 05/20] ASoC: imx: move audmux driver into sound/soc/imx Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 06/20] ASoC: imx: rename audmux prefix mxc to imx Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 07/20] ASoC: imx: move SND_SOC_AC97_BUS selection down to machine driver Shawn Guo
2012-03-04 13:34   ` Mark Brown
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 08/20] ASoC: imx: initialize dma_params burstsize just in imx-ssi Shawn Guo
2012-03-04 13:26   ` Mark Brown
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 09/20] ASoC: imx: separate imx-pcm bits from imx-ssi driver Shawn Guo
2012-03-04 13:41   ` Mark Brown
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 10/20] ASoC: imx: add an explicit Kconfig option for " Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 11/20] ASoC: fsl: separate SSI and DMA Kconfig options Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 12/20] ASoC: imx: merge sound/soc/imx into sound/soc/fsl Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 13/20] ASoC: fsl: create fsl_utils to accommodate the common functions Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 14/20] ASoC: fsl: check property 'compatible' for the machine name Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 15/20] ASoC: fsl: make fsl_ssi driver compilable on ARM/IMX Shawn Guo
2012-03-04 23:13   ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-03-04 23:28     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-04 23:32       ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-03-05  0:04         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-05  0:13           ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-03-05  0:26             ` Mark Brown
2012-03-06 10:40               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-06 12:06                 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-06 12:25                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-06 12:33                     ` Mark Brown
2012-03-06 13:02                       ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-03-06 13:03                         ` Mark Brown
2012-03-06 13:26                       ` Takashi Iwai
2012-03-06 13:38                         ` Mark Brown
2012-03-06 13:46                           ` Takashi Iwai
2012-03-06 13:52                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2012-03-06 16:54                             ` Mark Brown
2012-03-06 13:46                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-06 10:39             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-05  7:39     ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-05 12:28       ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-03-05 13:40         ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 16/20] ASoC: fsl: remove the fatal error checking on codec-handle Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 17/20] ASoC: fsl: let fsl_ssi work with imx pcm and machine drivers Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:19 ` [PATCH 18/20] ASoC: fsl: add dt support for imx-audmux Shawn Guo
2012-03-03 15:20 ` [PATCH 19/20] ASoC: rename sgtl5000 device tree binding document Shawn Guo
2012-03-04 13:39   ` Mark Brown
2012-03-03 15:20 ` [PATCH 20/20] ASoC: fsl: add imx-sgtl5000 machine driver Shawn Guo
2012-03-04 13:38   ` Mark Brown
2012-03-05  8:06     ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-05 11:56       ` Mark Brown
2012-03-05 13:07         ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-05 13:13           ` Mark Brown
2012-03-05 16:55             ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-05 17:03               ` Mark Brown
2012-03-06 18:19                 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-06 20:11                   ` Mark Brown
2012-03-05 16:58             ` Timur Tabi
2012-03-05 17:32               ` Mark Brown
2012-03-04 23:34   ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-03-05  8:07     ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-04 13:32 ` [PATCH 00/20] ASoC: add imx-sgtl5000 machine driver working with fsl_ssi Mark Brown

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