alsa-devel.alsa-project.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
Cc: ola.o.lilja@stericsson.com, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	sameo@linux.intel.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, olalilja@yahoo.se,
	STEricsson_nomadik_linux@list.st.com, lrg@ti.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linus.walleij@stericsson.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 20/21] ASoC: codecs: Enable AB8500 CODEC for Device Tree
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:43:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120726144336.GL3099@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <501150E5.6010503@linaro.org>


[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2885 bytes --]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 03:15:01PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> Sorry missed this:

> >Why are we doing this?  The MFD cells are a totally Linux specific
> >thing, there's no reason to represent them in the device tree unless
> >they're in some way reusable and the "ab8500-codec" name suggests that's
> >unlikely.  Just put the properties on the parent node and instantiate
> >the MFD cell as normal.

> We have all of the AB8500 devices into the Device Tree to accurately
> represent the hardware. We will also be passing configuration
> information into the AB8500 Codec from Device Tree. The only reason
> we're still registering them using the MFD API is to overcome
> addressing issues encountered earlier. Each 'device' still belongs
> in the 'device' tree.

The device here is the AB8500.  The fact that Linux chooses to represent
it as an MFD with a particular set of subdrivers is a Linux specific
decision and may well change over time.  For example it's likely that
we'll want to migrate the clocks out of the audio driver and into the
clock API when that becomes useful.  Similarly currently a lot of these
devices use ASoC level jack detection but that's going to move over to
extcon over time. 

There's no way you're going to be able to reuse this for anything that
isn't an AB8500, there's no abstraction of the SoC integration here.  If
you had clearly identifiable, repeatable IPs which you could reasonably
bind to a different bit of silicon then that'd be different but there's
nothing like that here.  We already know that the functionality covered
by the driver is going to be present simply by virtue of knowing that
there's an AB8500 and similarly there's no real way this driver could
ever be used without the core driver.  All the "device" in the device
tree is doing is serving as a container to place some of the DT
properties into, this needs to be separated out from the instantiation
of the Linux device driver.  There's nothing stopping the driver from
looking at the OF node of its parent here.

The goal here isn't just to copy the Linux device model and platform
data into device tree bindings, the device tree bindings need to think
about what the chip actually is so they can be reused by other OSs and
by future versions of Linux.

> If we were to take this Device Tree and use it on something
> non-Linux, that OS will still need to know about each of the AB8500
> devices and every associated configuration option. Only in Linux do
> we continue to register them though a different API, which doesn't
> affect any other OS.

Another OS might have a different idea about how it's going to split up
the chip which better fits with the models which that OS has for the
functions present on the device.  The reason this is a distinct device
in Linux is all to do with how Linux models the hardware.

[-- Attachment #1.2: Digital signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 836 bytes --]

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 0 bytes --]



  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-26 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-26 10:28 [PATCH 00/21] Some fixes and DT enablement for ux500 audio Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 01/21] ARM: ux500: Remove unused snowball_of_platform_devs struct Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 02/21] MFD: db8500-prcmu: Ensure AB8500 platform data is passed through MFD Core Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 03/21] ARM: ux500: Clean-up MSP platform code Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 04/21] ASoC: ux500: Strengthen error checking after memory allocation Lee Jones
2012-07-26 11:57   ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 05/21] ASoC: ux500: Include the correct header files Lee Jones
2012-07-26 11:58   ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 06/21] ASoC: dapm: If one widget fails, do not force all subsequent widgets to fail too Lee Jones
2012-07-26 11:54   ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 07/21] ASoC: io: Prevent use of regmap if request fails Lee Jones
2012-07-26 11:32   ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 11:38     ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 11:42       ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 14:51         ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 15:12           ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 15:23             ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 15:25               ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 16:05                 ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 20:23                   ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 08/21] ARM: ux500: Add AB8500 CODEC node to DB8500 Device Tree Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 09/21] ARM: ux500: Add MSP devices " Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 10/21] ARM: ux500: Add ux500 PCM " Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 11/21] ARM: ux500: Add all encompassing Sound node " Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 12/21] ARM: ux500: Fork MSP platform registration for step-by-step DT enablement Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 13/21] ARM: ux500: Ensure probing of Audio devices when Device Tree is enabled Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 14/21] ARM: ux500: Enable HIGHMEM on all mop500 platforms Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 15/21] ARM: ux500: Pass MSP DMA platform data though AUXDATA Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 16/21] ASoC: Ux500: Enable MOP500 driver for Device Tree Lee Jones
2012-07-26 11:37   ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 13:51     ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 13:53       ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 14:51         ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 17/21] ASoC: Ux500: Enable ux500 PCM " Lee Jones
2012-07-26 11:38   ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 13:52     ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 14:22       ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 14:55         ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 18/21] ASoC: Ux500: Move MSP pinctrl setup into the MSP driver Lee Jones
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 19/21] ASoC: Ux500: Enable ux500 MSP driver for Device Tree Lee Jones
2012-07-26 11:45   ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 20/21] ASoC: codecs: Enable AB8500 CODEC " Lee Jones
2012-07-26 11:50   ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 14:00     ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 14:28       ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 15:01         ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 15:14           ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 15:17             ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 14:15     ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 14:43       ` Mark Brown [this message]
2012-07-26 15:19         ` Lee Jones
2012-07-26 15:24           ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 10:28 ` [PATCH 21/21] ARM: ux500: Rename MSP board file to something more meaningful Lee Jones
2012-07-26 11:28 ` [PATCH 00/21] Some fixes and DT enablement for ux500 audio Mark Brown
2012-07-26 11:36   ` Lee Jones

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20120726144336.GL3099@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com \
    --to=broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com \
    --cc=STEricsson_nomadik_linux@list.st.com \
    --cc=alsa-devel@alsa-project.org \
    --cc=arnd@arndb.de \
    --cc=lee.jones@linaro.org \
    --cc=linus.walleij@stericsson.com \
    --cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=lrg@ti.com \
    --cc=ola.o.lilja@stericsson.com \
    --cc=olalilja@yahoo.se \
    --cc=sameo@linux.intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).