From: Henrik Austad <henrik@austad.us>
To: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@vger.kernel.org,
henrk@austad.us
Subject: Re: [very-RFC 0/8] TSN driver for the kernel
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:31:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160612083122.GB32724@icarus.home.austad.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <575CE560.9090608@sakamocchi.jp>
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On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 01:30:24PM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> On Jun 12 2016 12:38, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> > In your patcset, there's no actual codes about how to handle any
> > interrupt contexts (software / hardware), how to handle packet payload,
> > and so on. Especially, for recent sound subsystem, the timing of
> > generating interrupts and which context does what works are important to
> > reduce playback/capture latency and power consumption.
> >
> > Of source, your intention of this patchset is to show your early concept
> > of TSN feature. Nevertheless, both of explaination and codes are
> > important to the other developers who have little knowledges about TSN,
> > AVB and AES-64 such as me.
>
> Oops. Your 5th patch was skipped by alsa-project.org. I guess that size
> of the patch is too large to the list service. I can see it:
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=146568672728661&w=2
>
> As long as seeing the patch, packets are queueing in hrtimer callbacks
> every 1 seconds.
Actually, the hrtimer fires every 1ms, and that part is something I have to
do something about, also because it sends of the same number of frames
every time, regardless of how accurate the internal timer is to the rest of
the network (there's no backpressure from the networking layer).
> (This is a high level discussion and it's OK to ignore it for the
> moment. When writing packet-oriented drivers for sound subsystem, you
> need to pay special attention to accuracy of the number of PCM frames
> transferred currently, and granularity of the number of PCM frames
> transferred by one operation. In this case, snd_avb_hw,
> snd_avb_pcm_pointer(), tsn_buffer_write_net() and tsn_buffer_read_net()
> are involved in this discussion. You can see ALSA developers' struggle
> in USB audio device class drivers and (of cource) IEC 61883-1/6 drivers.)
Ah, good point. Any particular parts of the USB-subsystem I should start
looking at? Knowing where to start looking is a tremendous help
Thanks for the feedback!
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Henrik Austad
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Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-06-11 23:01 [alsa-devel] [very-RFC 0/8] TSN driver for the kernel Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 1/8] TSN: add documentation Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [alsa-devel] [very-RFC 2/8] TSN: Add the standard formerly known as AVB to the kernel Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [alsa-devel] [very-RFC 3/8] Adding TSN-driver to Intel I210 controller Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 4/8] Add TSN header for the driver Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [alsa-devel] [very-RFC 5/8] Add TSN machinery to drive the traffic from a shim over the network Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 6/8] Add TSN event-tracing Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-12 16:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-12 16:58 ` [alsa-devel] " Steven Rostedt
2016-06-12 21:25 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-12 21:25 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-13 2:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-13 7:20 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [alsa-devel] [very-RFC 7/8] AVB ALSA - Add ALSA shim for TSN Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 11:49 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 12:13 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 12:13 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 12:43 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 12:43 ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 11:49 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 8/8] MAINTAINERS: add TSN/AVB-entries Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-12 3:38 ` [very-RFC 0/8] TSN driver for the kernel Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-12 4:30 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-12 8:31 ` Henrik Austad [this message]
2016-06-12 10:43 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-12 22:06 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-12 8:28 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-12 9:14 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-13 11:47 ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 13:00 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-13 13:00 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-13 19:32 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 9:30 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-14 9:30 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-14 18:26 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 20:38 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-14 20:38 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 7:04 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 7:04 ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 7:50 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 7:50 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 11:41 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 11:41 ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 7:11 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 7:11 ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 18:26 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 19:32 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 19:37 ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 19:37 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 13:12 ` [alsa-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-13 13:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-13 15:56 ` John Fastabend
2016-06-13 15:56 ` [alsa-devel] " John Fastabend
2016-06-14 8:35 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-14 8:35 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-13 19:51 ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 11:18 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-06-14 17:04 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 17:04 ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 3:15 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-15 8:06 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-18 5:22 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-18 22:45 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-19 9:46 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-20 8:05 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-19 14:45 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-20 9:06 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-21 2:22 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-20 11:08 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-20 11:49 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-20 12:18 ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-20 12:31 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-20 15:21 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-21 5:54 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-06-21 6:38 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-21 6:45 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-06-21 17:18 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-21 17:45 ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-21 19:40 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-22 12:36 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-23 10:38 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-23 13:28 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 3:27 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-14 11:18 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-06-13 19:51 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 11:47 ` Richard Cochran
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-06-11 23:01 Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 22:22 [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 22:49 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 22:22 Henrik Austad
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