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From: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>
To: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: locking looks odd
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 14:12:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160820121205.GK4252@var.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0fec7ab2-f72f-a27a-e82b-58642836db88@perex.cz>

Jaroslav Kysela, on Wed 17 Aug 2016 19:46:42 +0200, wrote:
> Dne 16.8.2016 v 23:03 Samuel Thibault napsal(a):
> > - snd_pcm_new seems to initialize pcm->thread_safe to 0 by default, this
> >   does not seem safe. The attached patch initializes it to 1, which
> >   fixes the bug in our tests.
> > 
> > - snd_pcm_hw_open_fd forces it to 1, thus ignoring what snd_pcm_new set.
> 
> The thread_safe has this meaning:
> 
> 0  - the pcm plugin is not thread safe
> 1  - the pcm plugin is thread safe (actually only the hw plugin)
> -1 - disable thread safety

So now with rethinking all of this, I'm starting to understand: from
reading the variable name, I would have thought "thread_safe=1" means
"I want thread safety thanks to a mutex", while apparently it means
"the plugin is already thread-safe, there is no need for a mutex"...
Really, all of this should be documented clearly along the source code,
otherwise people will get it wrong.

I'd just like to check something: do we agree that libasound must be
thread-safe by default (otherwise it breaks the application assumption
that it's thread-safe)?  If so, then there are thread-safety bugs: the
mentioned Debian report is far from alone, the upgrade to the newer
libasound has severely broken quite a few applications, I'm at the point
of advising the Debian maintainer to just revert to the previous version
for Stretch, otherwize we'll be shipping just very-buggy software.

Samuel

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-20 12:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-16 21:03 locking looks odd Samuel Thibault
2016-08-17 12:41 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-17 17:46 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2016-08-20 12:12   ` Samuel Thibault [this message]
2016-08-22 12:02     ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-26 19:02     ` Samuel Thibault
2016-08-30 14:20       ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-30 15:54         ` Alan Horstmann
2016-08-30 16:00           ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-22 11:54   ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-01  6:27   ` David Henningsson
2016-09-01  8:12     ` Takashi Iwai

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