From: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>
To: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
Cc: tiwai@suse.de, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, broonie@linaro.org,
Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>,
omair.m.abdullah@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] ALSA: control: return payload length for TLV operation
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 09:50:40 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160831042040.GO9355@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <38f437e4-56e7-dc7a-6892-c1d812fd56d3@sakamocchi.jp>
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 07:04:12AM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> >>> The size is already returned in scale[1] (it's initialized by
> >>> DECLARE_TLV_DB_MINMAX()). That's exactly what the "L" in "TLV" means.
> >>>
> >>> All other TLV callbacks also take care to set this field correctly.
> >>>
> >>> If there were any TLV callback that did not set _tlv[1] to the actual
> >>> size, it would be buggy, and just needed to be fixed to do so.
> >>
> >> As I described, TLV feature of ALSA control interface is not only
> >> used to transfer threshold level information, but also arbitrary
> >> data for I/O by developers in ALSA SoC part. The '_tlv[1]' protocol
> >> is not necessarily kept by them.
> >
> > can you explain what you mean by 'to transfer threshold level information'
> >
> > And on this discussion, IIUC, we should fill tlv[1] with size being returned
> > right? For the asoc part, I think we should fix snd_soc_bytes_tlv_callback()
> > to update this.
>
> The layout of TLV packet is:
> struct snd_ctl_tlv {
> unsigned int numid; # numerical ID of a control element
> unsigned int length; # length of payload
> unsigned int tlv[0]; # payload
> };
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git/tree/include/uapi/sound/asound.h?h=sound-4.8-rc4#n945
>
> In our implementaion, TLV packet payload (struct snd_ctl_tlv.tlv) is
> used to transfer data. For pure threshold level information, we expects
> applications and drivers to fill the payload with this protocol:
> struct snd_ctl_tlv.tlv[0]: one of SNDRV_CTL_TLVT_XXX
> struct snd_ctl_tlv.tlv[1]: length of data
> struct snd_ctl_tlv.tlv[2..]: data
>
> (You can see SNDRV_CTL_TLVT_XXX in this header.
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git/tree/include/uapi/sound/tlv.h?h=sound-4.8-rc4
> )
>
> On the other hand, ALSA SoC part performs:
> struct snd_ctl_tlv.tlv[0..]: arbitrary data
>
> If your 'tlv[1]' means the 'struct snd_ctl_tlv.tlv[1]', no sense.
>
> The issue I address is current implementation cannot correctly handle
> this case:
> - applications request a buffer with a certain size
> - drivers processes the request with smaller size
> - application cannot get the size
>
> When implementing I/O operation, in my understanding, this situation
> often occurs, depending on driver implementation. Fortunately, current
> implementation of WM-ADSP is free from this concern, but it's better for
> us not to expect this luck always.
Thanks for the detailed explanation,
IIUC, the fix would be to ensure that drivers or ASoC does return the length
value in snd_ctl_tlv.tlv[1] per the API expectations. As I said, in ASoC we
tend to move code to core, so snd_soc_bytes_tlv_callback should be updated
Thanks
--
~Vinod
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-31 4:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-29 23:44 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] ALSA: control: return payload length of TLV operation Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-29 23:44 ` [PATCH 1/4] ALSA: control: return payload length for " Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-30 5:29 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-30 6:19 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-30 6:59 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-30 7:13 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-30 7:39 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-30 7:05 ` Clemens Ladisch
2016-08-30 7:09 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-30 8:04 ` Clemens Ladisch
2016-08-30 12:22 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-30 14:51 ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-30 22:04 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-31 4:20 ` Vinod Koul [this message]
2016-08-31 4:30 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-31 9:05 ` Charles Keepax
2016-08-31 9:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-31 11:54 ` Clemens Ladisch
2016-08-31 12:08 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-31 15:26 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-31 15:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-02 11:30 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-02 13:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-02 14:50 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-02 15:19 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-02 16:26 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-03 11:38 ` Charles Keepax
2016-09-04 11:07 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-04 20:45 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-06 3:30 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-12 12:37 ` Charles Keepax
2016-09-12 15:25 ` Vinod Koul
2016-09-12 15:28 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-12 16:03 ` Charles Keepax
2016-09-12 16:28 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-13 8:39 ` Charles Keepax
2016-08-31 12:19 ` Charles Keepax
2016-08-31 13:24 ` Clemens Ladisch
2016-08-31 14:18 ` Charles Keepax
2016-08-31 16:05 ` Vinod Koul
2016-09-02 11:18 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-02 16:05 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-03 3:53 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-03 11:32 ` Charles Keepax
2016-08-29 23:44 ` [PATCH 2/4] ALSA: control: delegate checking the length of data payload to each drivers Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-30 15:46 ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-29 23:44 ` [PATCH 3/4] ALSA: control: add kerneldoc for snd_kcontrol_tlv_rw_t Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-29 23:44 ` [PATCH 4/4] ALSA: control: bump up protocol version to 2.0.8 Takashi Sakamoto
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