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From: Charles Keepax <ckeepax@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>,
	Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>,
	broonie@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] ALSA: control: return payload length for TLV operation
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:39:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160913083921.GL21682@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hbmztaxpz.wl-tiwai@suse.de>

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 06:28:56PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:03:16 +0200,
> Charles Keepax wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 05:28:58PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 17:25:31 +0200,
> > > Vinod Koul wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 01:37:37PM +0100, Charles Keepax wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 12:30:35PM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> > > Also, still another point is to be decided: is passing an arbitrary
> > > size via info callback for an element without read/write access bits
> > > (but with TLV bit) a right behavior?
> > > 
> > 
> > So I guess the question would be if you couldn't read the
> > controls size from info how would you find out the control size?
> 
> Well, I'm not against the idea to expose the size in callback.  The
> behavior without read/write bits is just undefined, and we need a
> clear definition to avoid further confusion.  I guess the introduction
> of a new flag would be the start.

The trouble with that is you have to do a read/write to find out
the size you need to read or write though. So you end up doing
weird stuff like a dummy zero length read or something, which
feels a bit icky.

One other thing to consider is that if we add the new flag it
might be nice to allow normal read/write operations on the
controls as well (only accessing the first 512 bytes of the
control). Certainly for the ADSP control I would have
liked to have done this to preserve better backwards
compatibility with older user-spaces.

Thanks,
Charles

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-13  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-29 23:44 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] ALSA: control: return payload length of TLV operation Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-29 23:44 ` [PATCH 1/4] ALSA: control: return payload length for " Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-30  5:29   ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-30  6:19     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-30  6:59       ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-30  7:13         ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-30  7:39           ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-30  7:05   ` Clemens Ladisch
2016-08-30  7:09     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-30  8:04       ` Clemens Ladisch
2016-08-30 12:22         ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-30 14:51       ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-30 22:04         ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-31  4:20           ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-31  4:30             ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-31  9:05               ` Charles Keepax
2016-08-31  9:40                 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-31 11:54                   ` Clemens Ladisch
2016-08-31 12:08                     ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-31 15:26                       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-31 15:40                         ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-02 11:30                           ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-02 13:09                             ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-02 14:50                               ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-02 15:19                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-02 16:26                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-03 11:38                             ` Charles Keepax
2016-09-04 11:07                               ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-04 20:45                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-06  3:30                                   ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-12 12:37                                     ` Charles Keepax
2016-09-12 15:25                                       ` Vinod Koul
2016-09-12 15:28                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-12 16:03                                           ` Charles Keepax
2016-09-12 16:28                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-13  8:39                                               ` Charles Keepax [this message]
2016-08-31 12:19                     ` Charles Keepax
2016-08-31 13:24                       ` Clemens Ladisch
2016-08-31 14:18                         ` Charles Keepax
2016-08-31 16:05                           ` Vinod Koul
2016-09-02 11:18                     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-02 16:05                       ` Takashi Iwai
2016-09-03  3:53                         ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-03 11:32                       ` Charles Keepax
2016-08-29 23:44 ` [PATCH 2/4] ALSA: control: delegate checking the length of data payload to each drivers Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-30 15:46   ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-29 23:44 ` [PATCH 3/4] ALSA: control: add kerneldoc for snd_kcontrol_tlv_rw_t Takashi Sakamoto
2016-08-29 23:44 ` [PATCH 4/4] ALSA: control: bump up protocol version to 2.0.8 Takashi Sakamoto

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