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User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Cc: tiwai@suse.de, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org X-BeenThere: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Alsa-devel mailing list for ALSA developers - http://www.alsa-project.org" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: "Alsa-devel" --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 04:32:22PM -0500, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote: > On 9/3/20 3:42 PM, Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > >=20 > > Only my 2 cents: It's just another word combo. See bellow for sources f= or others. > >=20 > > I would prefer probably provider/consumer . It sounds more technic. > Thanks Jaroslav for chiming in. I had a similar set of comments in intern= al > reviews, but we didn't really have any consensus and I have not seen good > guidance specifically for clocks. > Provider/consumer is typically used for discrete data exchange with some > sort of locking and buffer fullness metric, but for clocks we'd want > something that hints at one device following the timing defined by anothe= r. > "follow" or "track" seem clearer than 'consume' IMHO, but I will side with > the majority, this is an RFC which can be modified at will. Producer/consumer is already quite widely used for clocks (possibly following the regulator API which was templated off the clock API and uses consumer). The follow/track stuff definitely seems awkward to me. Have we seen any movement from anyone like CODEC vendors on this? --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAl9R//EACgkQJNaLcl1U h9D8zgf+JOQUT7KJ1tzh+5VcgoVfDtQHrz8gBAzitfUG2Z4fZHjDVnoIp+nPcMq/ Y9hPutTex7i//BGOfSm2qcUooiPOZtCnIh4WZb+QYTE8Y6wymYpQZUFJhJ2jUqxO 7eWZZKGMVUe/O7nnvZDUleYfNo7wDBPQ1hflXbSJsABdy6cDoDZmOsCMn2IJx98m zrC6DaEBKrk55JXNRjUxfN9ZvR10IBVJjSd3SKoTs9sd0DD05UBrCGQtbEO1orB2 WglbdyF4GRn6ZerarRnPwgg0sgrjdG6Su/vb9A2ZO3wVyheBjd5C/yQu5noorZKY pEB5Ll1XU1pItDX9K4WmuZz3rB7Tpw== =QC7L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v--