From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from alsa0.perex.cz (alsa0.perex.cz [77.48.224.243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5132EC46467 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 08:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alsa1.perex.cz (alsa1.perex.cz [207.180.221.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A13B5188; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:02:35 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 alsa0.perex.cz 5A13B5188 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=alsa-project.org; s=default; t=1673856205; bh=37g2l5WJER5xmk4p1edgqBhlUL4ewvHF5ICHVX03mrU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: Cc:From; b=iEpV3IhQKpzvWLY+mibhg/2tCEILkOYBcvlOUNaHZXMVJ3q6n6+PNn+zHntU77ZMY aIxejGpYfDGKKNvxKMd1iQFnZtzp5jSf0YJ9d0paNElPAiOMRdx5m4TihcCdYnzAI7 QBMiP2xCHvVF3LqEeeni3fYjw0b7foWVgJKzwVJU= Received: from alsa1.perex.cz (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F76DF8055A; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:01:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix, from userid 50401) id 42905F8024C; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 08:14:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from verein.lst.de (verein.lst.de [213.95.11.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A730F80083 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 08:14:39 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 alsa1.perex.cz 1A730F80083 Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 32DA668AFE; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 08:14:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 08:14:36 +0100 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Geert Uytterhoeven Subject: Re: remove arch/sh Message-ID: <20230116071436.GB15848@lst.de> References: <20230113062339.1909087-1-hch@lst.de> <11e2e0a8-eabe-2d8c-d612-9cdd4bcc3648@physik.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:01:06 +0100 X-BeenThere: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Alsa-devel mailing list for ALSA developers - http://www.alsa-project.org" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, Rich Felker , Geert Uytterhoeven , linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig , linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Yoshinori Sato , linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann , linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, Kieran Bingham , netdev@vger.kernel.org, dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Laurent Pinchart Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: "Alsa-devel" On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 09:26:23AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Indeed. The main issue is not the lack of people sending patches and > fixes, but those patches never being applied by the maintainers. > Perhaps someone is willing to stand up to take over maintainership? The other problem is that it hasn't a DT conversion, and there are lot of crufty platforms, and crufty hooks in various drivers and core code. It's been mentioned a few times that it might be time to go to a minimal DT only port and then regrow what people are actually using, but for that we need indiciations of what people are actually using. And yes, it does need a proper maintainer, and some actual maintainer option like cutting down unused machine support.