From: Abramo Bagnara <abramo.bagnara@libero.it>
To: Anders Torger <torger@ludd.luth.se>
Cc: alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Why do I get broken pipe on write to a pcm in statePREPARED?
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 19:46:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DA1C884.C8283CE6@libero.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200210071319.g97DJJ008659@d1o87.telia.com
Anders Torger wrote:
>
> On Monday 07 October 2002 14.07, you wrote:
> > Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > it CAN happen if you have multi-threads.
> > > the problem is that we have no option to block the poll.
> >
> > If you have multi-thread you have other alternative to do that.
> > OTOH application can't detect *why* poll is blocking with the change
> > you advocate.
>
> This is a non-issue. I think it is larger risk to search for the wrong
> problem (like I did), that is beleiving that there is a buffer underrun
> or similar. This type of blocking bug is very easy to detect and debug,
> I don't think the bug-detection argument is important, and that is also
> the only argument for the current behaviour (apart from that it is bad
> to change APIs).
I'm not speaking about programming bugs. Suppose the PCM is stopped by
another thread: you're screwed.
> > > > That apart I'm sure that to make a change in actual behaviour
> > > > between rcX and 1.0 is a professional suicide. However it's
> > > > _your_ professional suicide so... ;-)))
> > >
> > > yes, i know it well ;)
> > >
> > > i don't like to change this inevitably, too.
> > > and as mentioned above, i don't mind to add an option as sw_params,
> > > etc. for the new behavior.
> > >
> > > but the current behavior is incorrect from the interpretation of
> > > POSIX. so this must be a bug.
> > > if we have to change it, then i would choose the new one, because
> > > it's more intuitive without exception.
> >
> > As pointed by Clemens the current is the proper POSIX behaviour.
>
Perhaps you should reread Single Unix Specification, I quote
http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007904975/functions/poll.html
POLLIN
Data other than high-priority data may be read without
blocking.
POLLOUT
Normal data may be written without blocking.
No data may be read/written in current stream state in the case we are
discussing.
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[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0209112103010.607-100000@pnote.perex-int.cz>
2002-09-11 19:26 ` Why do I get broken pipe on write to a pcm in state PREPARED? Anders Torger
2002-09-11 20:14 ` Paul Davis
2002-09-12 11:13 ` Takashi Iwai
2002-09-12 11:48 ` Anders Torger
2002-09-12 15:56 ` Takashi Iwai
2002-09-12 16:14 ` Anders Torger
2002-09-12 20:02 ` Tim Goetze
2002-09-13 9:41 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2002-09-13 10:43 ` Takashi Iwai
2002-09-13 11:45 ` Tim Goetze
2002-09-13 12:37 ` Takashi Iwai
2002-09-15 17:56 ` Why do I get broken pipe on write to a pcm in statePREPARED? Abramo Bagnara
2002-09-16 10:46 ` Takashi Iwai
2002-09-16 13:18 ` Tim Goetze
2002-09-16 14:31 ` Takashi Iwai
2002-09-16 19:31 ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-09-16 19:49 ` Tim Goetze
2002-09-16 20:14 ` Anders Torger
2002-09-17 8:12 ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-09-17 9:03 ` Anders Torger
2002-09-17 13:04 ` Paul Davis
2002-09-17 9:05 ` Clemens Ladisch
2002-09-17 10:09 ` Anders Torger
2002-09-17 11:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2002-09-17 11:55 ` tomasz motylewski
2002-09-17 12:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2002-09-17 13:01 ` Anders Torger
2002-09-17 14:40 ` Clemens Ladisch
2002-09-18 19:57 ` Anders Torger
2002-10-04 8:14 ` Anders Torger
2002-10-04 12:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2002-10-04 18:04 ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-10-07 10:15 ` Takashi Iwai
2002-10-07 12:07 ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-10-07 13:19 ` Anders Torger
2002-10-07 17:46 ` Abramo Bagnara [this message]
2002-10-08 9:54 ` Takashi Iwai
2002-10-07 13:57 ` Tim Goetze
2002-10-09 18:13 ` Jack O'Quin
2002-09-17 13:03 ` Paul Davis
2002-10-15 15:49 ` multiple devices/ possible bug in aplay or somewhere else? Guilhem Tardy
2002-10-15 16:14 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2002-10-15 17:05 ` Guilhem Tardy
[not found] <3D8638F6.AC6DE0C2@racine.ra.it>
2002-09-16 22:04 ` Why do I get broken pipe on write to a pcm in statePREPARED? Tim Goetze
2002-09-17 8:21 ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-09-17 9:21 ` Tim Goetze
[not found] <200209171301.g8HD1Ww01231@mother.ludd.luth.se>
2002-09-17 13:04 ` Anders Torger
[not found] <3D98769A000FAA05@ims5a.libero.it>
2002-10-05 7:45 ` Abramo Bagnara
[not found] <3D98769A00183382@ims5a.libero.it>
2002-10-08 6:06 ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-10-08 7:30 ` Clemens Ladisch
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