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From: James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.co.uk>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: Re: 2.6.12-rc1-mm3, sound card lost id
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:53:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4249C031.7020501@superbug.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1112131111.5386.3.camel@mindpipe>

Lee Revell wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 23:13 +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> 
>>>+	{.vendor = 0x1102, .device = 0x0002, .subsystem = 0x80271102,
>>>+	 .driver = "EMU10K1", .name = "SBLive! Value [CT4832]", 
>>>+	 .emu10k1_chip = 1,
>>>+	 .ac97_chip = 1} ,
>>
>>Unsurprisingly, my card is now named CT4832. I had to edit
>>/etc/asound.state manually to get my mixer settings back (with some
>>warnings, but I get some sound).
>>
>>Not sure I quite see the idea of renaming from "Live", which the user
>>will understand, to (I suppose) the exact chip name on the card, while
>>the user has certainly no idea what it is. But heh I'm not an ALSA
>>developer, there must be a good reason.
> 
> 
> Blame Creative.  They have released so many different cards under the
> Live! name that it's become meaningless.  There are now two separate
> classes of cards marketed as Live! (or Audigy) that don't even use the
> same driver (ca0106 and emu10k1x), the hardware isn't even similar.
> Unsurprisingly, the user confusion is massive.
> 
> The model number is the simplest unique identifier.  This is also what
> the "good" Windows drivers for these devices, http://www.kxproject.com,
> use.
> 
> Lee
> 

It looks to me that alsactl is to blame here.
If a user has 2 sound cards of exactly the same model, the state will
not be saved, as the state.xxxx will be the same for both cards.
I think we need to change alsactl to make the saved state unique.
Maybe a combination of driver name and card number, and not use short
name at all.
Any comments?


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-29 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20050325002154.335c6b0b.akpm@osdl.org>
2005-03-26 10:19 ` 2.6.12-rc1-mm3, sound card lost id Jean Delvare
     [not found] ` <20050326111945.5eb58343.khali@linux-fr.org>
2005-03-29 12:24   ` Takashi Iwai
2005-03-29 17:57     ` Jean Delvare
2005-03-29 20:17       ` Lee Revell
2005-03-29 20:46         ` Jean Delvare
2005-03-29 20:52           ` Lee Revell
2005-03-29 21:13             ` Jean Delvare
2005-03-29 21:18               ` Lee Revell
2005-03-29 20:53                 ` James Courtier-Dutton [this message]
2005-03-30  7:18                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2005-03-30 12:24               ` Takashi Iwai

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