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From: The Source <thesourcehim@gmail.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: Backported sbxfi driver, possible fix
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:34:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <490560F3.80104@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5h63ne1rh8.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

Takashi Iwai пишет:
> At Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:32:05 +0300,
> The Source wrote:
>   
>> Alexander E. Patrakov пишет:
>>     
>>> Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> A few important features are in my mind:
>>>> - continuous rate support
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> In the sources, you have:
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Note: 44.1kHz is possible, but is more complex because it uses a method
>>>> whereby the channel ring marks each sample in the channel ring as valid
>>>> or not, so to get 44.1kHz, some samples are simply tagged invalid. The
>>>> "channel ring" is not the ring buffer that is used to get sound samples
>>>> to the card. The "channel ring" is used to pass samples between
>>>> different processing modules on the card. One of these processing
>>>> modules is the SRC, another is the INs/OUTs, another is the hardware
>>>> mixer, and yet another is the DSP.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Do I understand correctly that the card internally resamples the sound 
>>> to a different rate using the zero-order-hold method? If so, I'd rather 
>>> not see this feature at all unless the "i_want_horrible_sound" parameter 
>>> is passed, because software can do it better, and some program will 
>>> surely default to using this hardware misfeature.
>>>
>>> OTOH, Wine is doing this for ages and nobody except me complains 
>>> (http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14717)
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> Wine causes sound corruption with this driver for me (along with some 
>> other software like Pulseaudio).
>>     
>
> Does it happen also with base_rate=48000 option?
>   
Yes.
> It'd be helpful if someone can summarize the working and non-working
> cases.  For example,
>
> global info:
> 1. sbxfi driver version (date & HEADs)
> 2. base_rate value
> 3. system details (x86-64, distro, kernel version, etc)
>
>   
26.10.2008 snapshot, don't remember the time.
96000 and 48000
x86-64 Fedora 9 kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.x86_64
> for each app:
> A. Application name / version
> B. working or not-working, problem descriptions
> C. ALSA or OSS (you can see it in /proc/asound/card*/pcm0/sub0/hw_params)
> D. period_size and buffer_size (ditto, or in kernel message)
> E. any special options
>
>   
Wine 1.1.6
Sound glitches
Both ALSA and OSS
Very weird values, I reported before.
> Maybe also nice on Wiki...
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Takashi
>
>   

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Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-09 18:02 Backported sbxfi driver (UNTESTED!) Takashi Iwai
2008-10-09 18:12 ` Brendan Pike
2008-10-09 18:25 ` Ted T. Logian
2008-10-09 18:25 ` William Pitcock
2008-10-09 18:49 ` Ted T. Logian
2008-10-09 19:50 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-10-10  6:02   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-09 20:03 ` Ted T. Logian
2008-10-09 20:17 ` Ted T. Logian
2008-10-10  6:01   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-10  6:26     ` Ted T. Logian
2008-10-10  6:46       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-10 18:17         ` William Pitcock
2008-10-11 16:01           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-11 17:36             ` William Pitcock
2008-10-11 17:39               ` William Pitcock
2008-10-11 17:41               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-11 17:43                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-11 18:04                 ` William Pitcock
2008-10-12 19:34                   ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]                     ` <e4b753d00810121816i133141d5te6a4d638044f3875@mail.gmail.com>
2008-10-13  2:08                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-13  9:51                     ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]         ` <6d00fe310810100939h6cd61e0cg7817c7f54f6261f6@mail.gmail.com>
2008-10-10 16:41           ` Fwd: " The Source
2008-10-11 15:47           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-11 16:03             ` Ted T. Logian
2008-10-11 17:32               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-12  8:41                 ` Vedran Miletić
2008-10-12  8:48                   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-10-12  9:43                     ` The Source
2008-10-12  8:44                 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-10-13  9:52                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-11 16:28             ` The Source
2008-10-11 17:34               ` Takashi Iwai
2009-06-10  8:39       ` problems with fedora 11 and pulseaudio and svn x-fi driver Ted T. Logan
2009-06-10  8:52         ` Ted T. Logan
2009-06-10  9:29           ` Takashi Iwai
2009-06-10 16:23             ` Ted T. Logan
2009-06-10 16:48             ` Ted T. Logan
2009-06-11 14:48             ` Ted T. Logan
2009-06-12 16:46             ` "ticks" with latest " Ted T. Logan
2008-10-16 12:03 ` Backported sbxfi driver (UNTESTED!) Jan Wolf
2008-10-16 12:33   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-16 12:56     ` Xarteras
2008-10-16 13:36       ` The Source
2008-10-16 13:48         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-16 14:15           ` The Source
2008-10-16 14:18             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-16 14:41               ` The Source
2008-10-16 14:42                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-16 14:51                   ` The Source
2008-10-16 15:00                   ` The Source
2008-10-16 15:04                     ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]                       ` <48F75892.8000209@gmail.com>
2008-10-16 15:15                         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-16 17:53                           ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-16 18:02                             ` The Source
2008-10-16 18:18                           ` The Source
2008-10-17  6:17                             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17  6:26                               ` The Source
2008-10-17  6:39                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17  7:16                                   ` The Source
2008-10-17  8:17                                   ` The Source
2008-10-17  9:00                                   ` Xarteras
2008-10-17  9:17                                     ` The Source
2008-10-17  9:25                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17  9:23                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17  9:50                                       ` Xarteras
2008-10-17 10:00                                         ` Tony Vroon
2008-10-17 10:35                                           ` Xarteras
2008-10-17 15:33                                             ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-17  7:57                               ` The Source
2008-10-17  9:35                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17  9:58                                   ` The Source
2008-10-17  9:59                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17 10:01                                       ` The Source
2008-10-17 10:04                                         ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]                                           ` <48F86606.9070108@gmail.com>
2008-10-17 10:27                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17 20:48                                               ` William Pitcock
2008-10-18 10:06                                               ` Xarteras
2008-10-18 15:06                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-18 17:10                                                   ` William Pitcock
2008-10-18 17:17                                                     ` William Pitcock
2008-10-19  7:59                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-19 18:07                                                         ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-19 19:47                                                           ` William Pitcock
2008-10-16 21:29           ` Xarteras
2008-10-17 18:16             ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-10-22 15:24           ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-22 15:26             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-22 16:07               ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-22 16:24                 ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-22 19:25                   ` The Source
2008-10-23  5:40                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 11:46                       ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-23 11:53                         ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 13:56                           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 12:45                             ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 13:07                               ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-23 13:21                                 ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 15:54                               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 14:23                                 ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 17:07                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 17:15                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 15:37                                       ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 15:40                                         ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-23 17:44                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 17:49                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 16:23                                             ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 19:14                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 17:32                                                 ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 21:30                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 20:17                                                     ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-24  8:40                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-24  7:56                                                         ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-24 10:21                                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-24  8:50                                                             ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-25 13:06                                                             ` Backported sbxfi driver, possible fix Thomas Scheunemann
2008-10-25 16:05                                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-25 19:42                                                                 ` Thomas Scheunemann
2008-10-25 19:59                                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-25 20:40                                                                     ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-25 21:57                                                                       ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-26  6:32                                                                         ` The Source
2008-10-26  8:23                                                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-26  9:11                                                                             ` The Source
2008-10-26  9:17                                                                             ` The Source
2008-10-26  6:45                                                                         ` The Source
2008-10-26  6:56                                                                         ` The Source
2008-10-26  7:22                                                                           ` The Source
2008-10-26  8:21                                                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-27  5:15                                                                           ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2008-10-27  5:32                                                                             ` The Source
2008-10-27  6:28                                                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-27  6:34                                                                                 ` The Source [this message]
2008-10-27  6:39                                                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-28  0:10                                                                                 ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-28  7:14                                                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-28 13:48                                                                                     ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-28 14:12                                                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-30 10:46                                                                                         ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-30 11:05                                                                                           ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-30 11:07                                                                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-30 12:25                                                                                               ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-28  6:59                                                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-27  6:36                                                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-27 20:08                                                                             ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-10-28  4:44                                                                               ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2008-10-28  9:31                                                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-28 10:53                                                                               ` Vedran Miletić
2008-10-29  8:38                                                                               ` Pavel Hofman
2008-10-26  8:16                                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-26  8:45                                                                         ` Backported sbxfi driver. Pulse works! Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 17:26                                       ` Backported sbxfi driver (UNTESTED!) Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 15:31                                         ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 17:41                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 14:48                                 ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 13:54                         ` Takashi Iwai

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