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From: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: Misusing snd_pcm_avail_update()
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:28:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4981689C.7000609@ladisch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090128183000.GG11770@tango.0pointer.de>

Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fri, 23.01.09 18:56, Clemens Ladisch (clemens@ladisch.de) wrote:
> > Instead of writing a callback in the USB driver to compute the time
> > until the next underrun, I'd rather rip out that fast start code.

(Done.)

> > So, no kernel computation is needed.  :-)
> 
> While I think it would be good not have this kind of double-buffering
> I wonder if this is really future-proof. i.e. can this done with every
> driver that uses 'fast starts'? 

Yes, because the USB driver was the only one that did this.

There are other drivers that use double-buffering (and the USB driver
still does), but there the playback speed does not change, i.e., the
stream is not more underrun-prone when starting.

> > * For many devices (legacy ISA, etc.), we just don't know the correct
> >   value.
> 
> But it should be possible to pick a safe boundary, shouldn't it?

In theory, the _safe_ boundary is one period.  In practice, ISA devices
cannot afford to prefetch much data due to the low bus bandwidth, so
one (frame) should be OK.  (And we _know_ devices that do whole-period
double-buffering because the code is right there in the driver.)


Best regards,
Clemens

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-29  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-20  2:57 Misusing snd_pcm_avail_update() Lennart Poettering
2009-01-20  8:29 ` Clemens Ladisch
2009-01-20  8:32   ` Clemens Ladisch
2009-01-20 14:26   ` Lennart Poettering
2009-01-20 18:48     ` Clemens Ladisch
2009-01-20 20:29       ` Lennart Poettering
2009-01-21  0:39         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-01-22 22:20           ` Lennart Poettering
2009-01-23 17:13             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-01-23 17:56               ` Clemens Ladisch
2009-01-24  9:52                 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-01-28 18:30                 ` Lennart Poettering
2009-01-29  8:28                   ` Clemens Ladisch [this message]
2009-01-28 18:26               ` Lennart Poettering
2009-01-23 18:49           ` James Courtier-Dutton

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