From: David Henningsson <david.henningsson@canonical.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: ALSA Development Mailing List <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] ALSA: HDA: Rename "Front" to "Master Front" on ALC861VD and ALC887
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:42:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CEA2D06.4010205@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5h1v6dsvgl.wl%tiwai@suse.de>
On 2010-11-22 07:50, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:29:37 +0100,
> David Henningsson wrote:
>>
>> Since "Front" controls headphones as well on these two codecs,
>> they should be labeled "Master Front" in order to be handled correct
>> by PulseAudio.
>
> Well, "Front" doesn't mean the physical output but rather the output
> channels. So, it doesn't conflict with the fact that this control
> actually changes all outputs, as long as the output jacks are of front
> channels. In that sense, even "Surround" is also a sort of Master
> control.
>
> That being said, I'm not happy with this rename. If any, we should
> try to get rid of unnecessary front volume control. But, just because
> PA gets confused doesn't sound like a right reason.
>
> Could you give the alsa-info.sh output for checking what mixer elements
> are created?
As you know PulseAudio needs consistent naming of volume controls, and
this is not expressed clearly enough in the docs, so, what would you
call a volume control that controls a front-line-out, but does not
control a front-speaker or a front-headphone? PulseAudio assumes that if
a control is named "Front", it does just that. So that's why I would
prefer a rename to "Master Front".
As for alsa-info output, I believe anything in hda-emu/codecs/alc861vd-*
would do, as they have nsteps=0 on NIDs 0x0c - 0x0f.
--
David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd.
http://launchpad.net/~diwic
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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-19 9:29 [PATCH 2/3] ALSA: HDA: Rename "Front" to "Master Front" on ALC861VD and ALC887 David Henningsson
2010-11-22 6:50 ` Takashi Iwai
2010-11-22 8:42 ` David Henningsson [this message]
2010-11-22 8:51 ` Takashi Iwai
2010-11-22 14:59 ` David Henningsson
2010-11-22 22:50 ` Raymond Yau
2010-11-23 8:05 ` Takashi Iwai
2010-11-23 8:10 ` Takashi Iwai
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