Re: Verifying mixer dB data/Invalid dB data from USB cards, especially Aureon 5.1 MkII

[Raymond Yau <superquad.vortex2@gmail.com>]

2010/2/22 Lennart Poettering <mznyfn@0pointer.de>

> On Sun, 21.02.10 11:49, Raymond Yau (superquad.vortex2@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > The most common onboard audio is HDA so this is not any exceptional cases
> >
> > Those HDA multi streaming  feature are most users wanted in desktop
> > enviornment, are pulseaudio really designed for deskop or just only for
> > notebook and mobile ?
> >
> > The front panel green/pink jack can be used by one application while the
> > rear panel audio jacks can be used to another application for surround or
> > mic for karaoke
>
> I am not entirely convinced that this is really a common case.
>

VT17xx codec already support independent HP mode

http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=commit;h=cdc1784d49258198df600fbc1d37c07d7eee5ed6

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****

card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: VT1708S Analog [VT1708S Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/2
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: VT1708S Digital [VT1708S Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


**** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: VT1708S Analog [VT1708S Analog]
  Subdevices: 2/2
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1



AD1988B 10 channels codec  on my ASUS P5BV  already has 3 capture subdevices

**** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
  Subdevices: 3/3
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: AD198x Digital [AD198x Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-products/audio-codecs/ad1988b/products/product.html

The AD1988A and AD1988B have 10 DACs and 6 ADCs,
Analog mixer supports recording and playback of signals from multiple
sources

ALC88x

**** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
card 0: VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx], device 2: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0



Do any PA developer has a desktop computer  with HDA audio ?



> But anyway, there is nothing in PA that would limit it to not use
> multiple parallel devices of a sound card at the same time, with the
> exception that ALSA currently has no enumeration API which could
> inform us which uses of the card are exclusive each other and which
> ones are not. PA currently tries to open the sound card in all
> combinations possible, assuming that EBUSY means it found an invalid
> combination. If one day ALSA gains an API that allows figuring out
> which combinations of streams are possible and which ones are not, I
> am happy to reinvestigate the whole issue.
>
> >  Send a game's sound through 5.1 speakers while the Internet chatting
> audio
> > is sent through your headset.
>
> More often than not you'd probably use two seperate cards for that.
>
> > Send a DVD movie with 5.1 audio to a surround sound system in the living
> > room, while you listen to digital music and surf the Web on the PC.
>
> I somehow doubt that this is the most common of use cases we need to
> care about.
>
> > THe point is that PA release/close the device (suspend on idle) , if
> another
> > application using the subdevice 0 before PA resume/reopen, PA will open
> > subdevice 1 and cannot find the correct capture volume control and user
> will
> > complain they cannot record
> >
> > Since PA did not check the subdevice number to find the correct mixer
> > control
>
> I'd certainly check the subdevice id if the smixer API would supply me
> with it.
>

if ( snd_pcm_info_get_subdevices_count(pcm_info) > 1 ) && (
snd_pcm_info_get_subdevices_count(pcm_info) < 8 ))

snd_mixer_selem_id_set_index(sid, snd_pcm_info_get_subdevice(pcm_info));



>
> Lennart
>
>