Re: REGRESSION: Webcam mic for 145f:015b not longer working with 1.0.24 and above (OK with 1.0.23)

[Daniel Mack <zonque@gmail.com>]

On 29.08.2012 02:13, Kostas wrote:
> On 29/08/2012 01:51 πμ, Daniel Mack wrote:
>> On 29.08.2012 00:16, Kostas wrote:
>>> On 28/08/2012 12:55 μμ, Daniel Mack wrote:
>>>> On 28.08.2012 11:47, Kostas wrote:
>>>>> On 28/08/2012 12:30 μμ, Daniel Mack wrote:
>>>>>> On 28.08.2012 11:18, Kostas wrote:
>>>>>>> On 28/08/2012 12:06 μμ, Daniel Mack wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 28.08.2012 10:56, Kostas wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 28/08/2012 11:50 πμ, Daniel Mack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 28.08.2012 10:47, Kostas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/08/2012 08:44 πμ, Daniel Mack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28.08.2012 00:19, Kostas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/08/2012 06:54 μμ, Kostas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/08/2012 02:44 μμ, Daniel Mack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27.08.2012 12:33, Kostas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/08/2012 12:26 μμ, Daniel Mack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27.08.2012 11:00, Kostas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a 'Trust Webcam' (USB ID: 145f:015b) that comes with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> microphone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The microphone works with Alsa 1.0.23 but it does not work with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest Alsa 1.0.25 neither with Alsa 1.0.24.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently this is a regression.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What shall I do to figure out the source of the problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are attached my alsa-infos, with Alsa 1.0.23 (working),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0.24 (NOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working) and 1.0.25 (NOT working).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you provide dmesg protocols for both a working and a non-working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below are attached the dmesg files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks - the logs look both good, I guess the interesting messages are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only generated once you try to start the stream. Can you try this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How i do that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried to make a test call in skype and also recording a video in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheese but no changes in dmesg.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there another way to start the stream?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also tried to record voice with sound recorder...with alsa 1.0.23
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording is fine..i hear my voice when playback the file but with alsa
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0.24 and above nothing is recorded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In both cases nothing is changed in dmesg output.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What else could i do to help you out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Comparing the two dmesg logs, I'm under the impression that in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> second case (the newer kernel), the hda driver kicks in and creates a
>>>>>>>>>>>> sound device before the usb audio driver does. Hence, the default card
>>>>>>>>>>>> changes and you're recording from your internal sound card rather than
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Webcam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please send the output of 'aplay -l' in both cases?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Output of working case
>>>>>>>>>>> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
>>>>>>>>>>> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
>>>>>>>>>>> Â  Subdevices: 1/1
>>>>>>>>>>> Â  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>>>>>>>>>> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: AD198x Digital [AD198x Digital]
>>>>>>>>>>> Â  Subdevices: 1/1
>>>>>>>>>>> Â  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>>>>>>>>>> card 2: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>>>>>>>>>>> Â  Subdevices: 1/1
>>>>>>>>>>> Â  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, there's of course no playback on a webcam. Try 'arecord -l'
>>>>>>>>>> instead, please.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Output of non-working case
>>>>>>>>> **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
>>>>>>>>> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
>>>>>>>>>        Subdevices: 3/3
>>>>>>>>>        Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>>>>>>>>        Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
>>>>>>>>>        Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
>>>>>>>>> card 1: Webcam [Trust 2MP Auto Focus Webcam], device 0: USB Audio [USB
>>>>>>>>> Audio]
>>>>>>>>>        Subdevices: 1/1
>>>>>>>>>        Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Output of working case
>>>>>>>>> **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
>>>>>>>>> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
>>>>>>>>>        Subdevices: 3/3
>>>>>>>>>        Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>>>>>>>>        Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
>>>>>>>>>        Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
>>>>>>>>> card 1: default [Trust 2MP Auto Focus Webcam ], device 0: USB Audio [USB
>>>>>>>>> Audio]
>>>>>>>>>        Subdevices: 1/1
>>>>>>>>>        Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Try 'arecord -f cd -Dplughw:1 foo.wav' and see if that works. For
>>>>>>>> whatever reason, the webcam is not the default in the non-working case.
>>>>>>>> Are you using the same userspace and configs in both cases?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately it doesn't work...voice is recorded only in 1.0.23 alsa
>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>> In above version nothing is recorded.
>>>>>>> I use the same Ubuntu release just the kernel changes
>>>>>>> 1.0.23 alsa is in kernel 2.6.38
>>>>>>> newer alsa versions that don't work are in newer kernels.
>>>>>> I still think it is all related to configs and settings. Can you please
>>>>>> go check all relevant volume settings and routing switches with amixer
>>>>>> or alsamixer? The fact that the default changes tells me that
>>>>>> something's different in the behaviour in which ALSA handles the devices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also note that 1.0.24 is rather ancient already, and while the driver
>>>>>> has seen quiet some refactoring lately, I haven't heard about
>>>>>> regressions in that version yet - and I'm sure we would have gotten a
>>>>>> whole lot of reports if there was such a tremendous breakage. And
>>>>>> there's no signs of errors in the kernel logs either. But you never
>>>>>> know, of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>> Alsamixer working casehttp://imagebin.org/226143
>>>>> Alsamixer non-working casehttp://imagebin.org/226142
>>>>>
>>>>> I also attach amixer output for both cases.
>>>>>
>>>> Both in the images and in the text output you seem to have missed
>>>> pointing amixer/alsamixer the correct device. alsamixer is also in the
>>>> playback pane, which doesn't exist for the Webcam.
>>>>
>>>> Try 'alsamixer -c1 -V capture'
>>>>
>>> I finally figured it out with amixer command
>>> non working version gives me this output
>>>
>>> kostas@kostas-home:~$ amixer -c1
>>> Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
>>> Â  Capabilities: cvolume cvolume-joined cswitch cswitch-joined penum
>>> Â  Capture channels: Mono
>>> Â  Limits: Capture 0 - 4096
>>> Â  Mono: Capture 2723 [66%] [10.63dB] [on]
>>>
>>> The working version gives this output
>>> kostas@kostas-home:~$ amixer -c1
>>> Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
>>>     Capabilities: cvolume cvolume-joined cswitch cswitch-joined penum
>>>     Capture channels: Mono
>>>     Limits: Capture 0 - 4096
>>>     Mono: Capture 4096 [100%] [16.00dB] [on]
>> Ok, thanks. In the given case, I have to ask you to do a git bisect.
>> That will point us to the commit that causes your problems. Sorry that I
>> can't help you any further right now, it's just unclear which commit in
>> the ancient history causes your problem.
>>
>> See here for instructions on how to do that:
>>
>>    https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-bisect.html
>>    http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Tools-Debugging-with-Git
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your help and patience,
>> Daniel
>>
> Command git bisect good 1.0.23 gives me the output
> fatal: Needed a single revision
> Bad rev input: 1.0.23
> 
> How can i figure out the revision number?
> 

When working with the kernel git, you have to take the kernel version
numbers.

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