From: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Fix for conflict of HDMI and SPDIF IEC958 controls
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:11:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <507BEF44.1040607@perex.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hfw5gt4b8.wl%tiwai@suse.de>
Date 15.10.2012 12:31, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:21:18 +0200,
> Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
>>
>> Date 12.10.2012 17:18, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> there is a long-standing problem in HD-audio regarding IEC958
>>> controls. When both an SPDIF and an HDMI are created on the same
>>> card (e.g. one from analog codec and one from graphics chip), the
>>> driver assigns the IEC958 controls just with new indices, 0, 1, 2...
>>>
>>> The problem is that there is no way to connect between this index and
>>> the actual PCM device. Currently, alsa-lib HDA-Intel.conf has a fixed
>>> configuration:
>>> spdif -> IEC958 xxx index=0, PCM dev=1
>>> hdmi,0 -> IEC958 xxx index=0, PCM dev=3
>>> hdmi,1 -> IEC958 xxx index=1, PCM dev=7
>>> hdmi,2 -> IEC958 xxx index=2, PCM dev=8
>>> hdmi,3 -> IEC958 xxx index=3, PCM dev=9
>>>
>>> So obviously spdif and the first hdmi conflict.
>>>
>>> Basically this can be fixed by reassigning each IEC958 control with
>>> the same device number corresponding to the PCM device. That is, for
>>> SPDIF, assign a control element with device=1, for HDMI,
>>> device=3,7...
>>> However, this obviously breaks the old configuration unless user
>>> upgrades the alsa-lib configuration. Thus this is no-go.
>>>
>>> Now here is a compromise: the IEC958 control for SPDIF is reassigned
>>> to device=1 *only* when SPDIF and HDMI coexist. Since the
>>> configuration is anyway broken as is now in such a case, it's no big
>>> deal to fix one side in an incompatible way. (The reason why SPDIF
>>> is re-assigned is that I guess majority of user require more HDMI than
>>> SPDIF in such a configuration.)
>>>
>>> In addition, we need a fix in alsa-lib. Also not for breaking the
>>> compatibility with older kernel, we need some fallback check. I did a
>>> quick hack to alsa-lib conf code and added "skip_rest" option to the
>>> hook element, so that only the first matching element is taken.
>>>
>>> Long story short, I cooked up three patches. One patch is for kernel,
>>> to add the workaround above, and the two are for alsa-lib, one clean
>>> up and one to introduce the skip_rest option (and application to
>>> HDA-Intel.conf).
>>>
>>> My plan is to merge this to 3.8 tree, so it's no urgent issue.
>>> But it's of course always good to fix something.
>>
>> What about to introduce more cleaner solution - export this information
>> using TLV to user space, so alsa-lib can enumerate (distinguish) the
>> spdif and hdmi devices properly.
>
> Yes, this is the next step I've planned. The additional information
> doesn't conflict with this fix.
>
> The point of this fix is to keep / fix the things working as much as
> possible even without changing user-space. If a user-space upgrade is
> mandatory, it can be regarded as an obvious regression.
>
> In short, my patch is:
> - A quick fix
> - Doesn't break the cases without SPDIF/HDMI conflict
> - Fixes HDMI for the conflicting case even without changing user-space
> - Would break the SPDIF output (only when SPDIF/HDMI conflicts)
> without config update
I understand, but because the config update mostly depends on the whole
alsa-lib package update, then I believe, the proper fix may be
implemented now rather than introducing a config hack option. But the
step-by-step improvement is ok to me, too.
Jaroslav
--
Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer
ALSA Project; Red Hat, Inc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-15 11:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-12 15:18 [RFC] Fix for conflict of HDMI and SPDIF IEC958 controls Takashi Iwai
2012-10-12 15:24 ` [PATCH RFC] ALSA: hda - Add workaround for conflicting " Takashi Iwai
2012-10-17 8:17 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-10-17 12:43 ` Raymond Yau
2012-10-17 12:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-02-08 22:44 ` [PATCH] ALSA: hda - Fix the " Anssi Hannula
2013-02-10 10:38 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-02-10 11:05 ` Anssi Hannula
2013-02-11 10:51 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-02-11 11:20 ` Anssi Hannula
2013-02-11 11:28 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-02-12 15:51 ` Anssi Hannula
2013-02-12 17:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-10-12 15:25 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] control: Simplify using snd_config_get_bool() Takashi Iwai
2012-10-12 15:25 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] Add workaround for conflicting IEC958 controls for HD-audio Takashi Iwai
2013-02-03 16:40 ` Anssi Hannula
2013-02-04 9:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-10-15 2:31 ` [RFC] Fix for conflict of HDMI and SPDIF IEC958 controls Raymond Yau
2012-10-15 7:46 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-10-15 8:15 ` Raymond Yau
2012-10-15 8:35 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-10-15 8:49 ` Raymond Yau
2012-10-15 8:55 ` Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <CAN8ccib4Z9VpHcdGxP3q5kofikU6zt6risGDAbOBiRKyKVcsxA@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAN8cciY0TfZ+50EuoYbFdz1AzgNuDKZAaDE-o0v-YD_MpXnO1g@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-15 13:10 ` Raymond Yau
2012-10-15 13:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-10-15 10:09 ` David Henningsson
2012-10-15 10:18 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-10-15 10:58 ` David Henningsson
2012-10-15 10:21 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2012-10-15 10:31 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-10-15 11:11 ` Jaroslav Kysela [this message]
2012-10-15 12:06 ` Takashi Iwai
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