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From: David Henningsson <david.henningsson@canonical.com>
To: Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>
Cc: "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	"Zanoni, Paulo R" <paulo.r.zanoni@intel.com>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Wysocki, Rafael J" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Wang Xingchao <xingchao.wang@linux.intel.com>,
	"Wang, Xingchao" <xingchao.wang@intel.com>,
	"Li, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.li@intel.com>,
	"Hindman, Gavin" <gavin.hindman@intel.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Girdwood, Liam R" <liam.r.girdwood@intel.com>,
	"Lin, Mengdong" <mengdong.lin@intel.com>,
	"ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/i915: Add private api for power well usage -- alignment between graphic team and audio team
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:29:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <517F9D11.3020905@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130429080219.05108857@jbarnes-desktop>

On 04/29/2013 05:02 PM, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:35:29 +0200
> Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 09:20:39AM +0000, Wang, Xingchao wrote:
>>> Let me throw a basic proposal on Audio driver side,  please give your comments freely.
>>>
>>> it contains the power well control usage points:
>>> #1: audio request power well at boot up.
>>> I915 may shut down power well after bootup initialization, as there's no monitor connected outside or only eDP on pipe A.
>>> #2: audio request power on resume
>>> After exit from D3 mode, audio driver quest power on. This may happen at normal resume or runtime resume.
>>> #3: audio release power well control at suspend
>>> Audio driver will let i915 know it doensot need power well anymore as it's going to suspend. This may happened at normal suspend or runtime suspend point.
>>> #4: audio release power well when module unload
>>> Audio release power well at remove callback to let i915 know.
>>
>> I miss the power well grab/dropping at runtime from the audio side. If the
>> audio driver forces the power well to be on the entire time it's loaded,
>> that's not good, since the power well stuff is very much for runtime PM.
>> We _must_ be able to switch off the power well whenever possible.
>
> Xingchao, I'm not an audio developer so I'm probably way off.
>
> But what we really need is a very small and targeted set of calls into
> the i915 driver from say the HDMI driver in HDA.  It looks like the
> prepare/cleanup pair in the pcm_ops structure might be the right place
> to put things?  If that's too fine grained, you could do it at
> open/close time I guess, but the danger there is that some app will
> keep the device open even while it's not playing.
>
> If that won't work, maybe calling i915 from hda_power_work in the
> higher level code would be better?
>
> For detecting whether to call i915 at all, you can filter on the PCI
> IDs (just look for an Intel graphics device and if present, try to get
> the i915 symbols for the power functions).
>
> --- a/sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c
> +++ b/sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c
> @@ -3860,6 +3860,8 @@ static unsigned int hda_call_codec_suspend(struct hda_code
>                  codec->patch_ops.suspend(codec);
>          hda_cleanup_all_streams(codec);
>          state = hda_set_power_state(codec, AC_PWRST_D3);
> +       if (i915_shared_power_well)
> +               i915_put_power_well(codec->i915_data);
>          /* Cancel delayed work if we aren't currently running from it. */
>          if (!in_wq)
>                  cancel_delayed_work_sync(&codec->power_work);
> @@ -4807,6 +4809,9 @@ static void __snd_hda_power_up(struct hda_codec *codec, bo
>                  return;
>          spin_unlock(&codec->power_lock);
>
> +       if (i915_shared_power_well)
> +               i915_get_power_well(codec->i915_data);

Is it wise that a _get function actually has side effects? Perhaps _push 
and _pop or something else would be better semantics.

> +
>          cancel_delayed_work_sync(&codec->power_work);
>
>          spin_lock(&codec->power_lock);
>
> With some code at init time to get the i915 symbols you need to call
> and whether or not the shared power well is present...
>
> Takashi, any other ideas?
>
> The high level goal here should be for the audio driver to call into
> i915 with get/put power well around the sequences where it needs the
> power to be up (reading/writing registers, playing audio), but not
> across the whole time the driver is loaded, just like you already do
> with the powersave work functions, e.g. hda_call_codec_suspend.

I think this sounds about right. The question is how to avoid a 
dependency on the i915 driver when it's not necessary, such as when the 
HDMI codec is AMD or Nvidia.

The most obvious way to me seems to be to create a new 
snd-hda-codec-hdmi-haswell module (that depends on both i915 and 
snd-hda-codec-hdmi), and then let that call into i915 and codec-hdmi 
drivers as necessary, e g using the set_power_state callback for the 
i915 stuff.

But maybe there's something smarter to do here, as I'm not experienced 
in mending kernel pieces together :-)


-- 
David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd.
https://launchpad.net/~diwic

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-30 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-26  6:58 [PATCH] drm/i915: Add private api for power well usage -- alignment between graphic team and audio team Li, Jocelyn
2013-04-26  7:24 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-04-26  7:53   ` Li, Jocelyn
2013-04-26 14:57     ` Daniel Vetter
2013-04-26 15:12       ` Takashi Iwai
2013-04-26 15:42         ` Daniel Vetter
2013-04-26 15:45           ` Takashi Iwai
2013-04-26 17:17             ` Daniel Vetter
2013-04-27  9:20               ` Wang, Xingchao
2013-04-27 11:35                 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-04-29 15:02                   ` Jesse Barnes
2013-04-30 10:29                     ` David Henningsson [this message]
2013-04-30 14:38                       ` Jesse Barnes
2013-05-02  3:17                         ` Lin, Mengdong
2013-04-30 14:41                       ` [alsa-devel] " Liam Girdwood
2013-05-02 14:49                         ` David Henningsson
2013-05-03  8:28                           ` [alsa-devel] " Wang, Xingchao
2013-05-03 12:02                             ` David Henningsson
2013-05-03 14:31                               ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-02  7:11                     ` Wang, Xingchao
2013-05-03 14:26                     ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-03 15:17                       ` Wang, Xingchao
2013-04-27  8:54         ` Wang, Xingchao
2013-04-27  8:46       ` Wang, Xingchao

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