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From: Anssi Hannula <anssi.hannula@iki.fi>
To: Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>
Cc: "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	James Le Cuirot <chewi@aura-online.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] ALSA: hda - hdmi: ATI/AMD multi-channel and HBR support
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 00:50:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <537293BF.20900@iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140513221056.0637c51d@symphony.aura-online.co.uk>

Hi Alex,

14.05.2014 00:10, James Le Cuirot kirjoitti:
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:16:17 +0100
> James Le Cuirot <chewi@aura-online.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 13 May 2014 15:27:47 +0300
>> Anssi Hannula <anssi.hannula@iki.fi> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately I've been told that HD 4xxx cards and older do not
>>> support multichannel playback, which I didn't know at the time (and
>>> I had forgotten your case, hence I didn't get back to you - sorry
>>> about that).
>>
>> Thank you for the quick reply. I'm not sure whether that's strictly
>> true. Wikipedia (though not always correct, I grant you) states that:
>>
>> "The RV770 series GPU also supports xvYCC color space output and 7.1
>> surround sound output (LPCM, AC3, DTS) over HDMI."
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_4000_Series#Multimedia_features
>>
>> The HD 4670 has the RV730XT chip. It isn't clear in the above
>> statement whether it is referring to the higher models in the range
>> or the range as a whole, given that the RV770 is the foundation chip.
>> Based on my experiences and what you have heard, it's probably the
>> former. This news piece at AnandTech also seems to back it up.
>>
>> "All of AMD's Radeon HD graphics cards have shipped with their own
>> audio codec, but the Radeon HD 4800 series of cards finally adds
>> support for 8-channel LPCM output over HDMI."
>>
>> http://www.anandtech.com/show/2556
>>
>> Looks like a new card for me then. Thanks for your help.
> 
> Aaaand after all that, I dig out the box for the old card to get ready
> to sell it and what do I see printed on the front? 7.1 Channel Sound!
> The box looks almost identical to this one:
> 
> http://www.overclockers.ua/video/ati-radeon-hd4670-ddr4/01-ati-radeon-hd4670-sapphire.jpg
> 
> This is very confusing. Any thoughts?

Alex, you told me in IRC some time ago that pre-DCE4 cards do no support
multi-channel PCM. Do you know what is going on above?
AFAIU James has HD 4670, which is RV730 and therefore has DCE3.2 only,
but seems like it should still have multi-channel support.

Multichannel LPCM support seems to be corroborated by various other
sources as well, e.g.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1029603/ati-radeon-hd-4600-4800-series-support-7-1-channel-hdmi-audio#user_ATIHDMIDriver

It doesn't appear to work, though. Is it possible some of those early
cards had some other way of getting multichannel LPCM?
Looks like the above forum post directs people to use a "ATI HDMI Audio
Device" driver from Realtek for Vista/7...
(
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
)

-- 
Anssi Hannula

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-13 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-24 18:10 [PATCH v3 0/5] ALSA: hda - hdmi: ATI/AMD multi-channel and HBR support Anssi Hannula
2013-10-24 18:10 ` [PATCH 1/5] ALSA: hda - hdmi: Allow HDA patches to customize more operations Anssi Hannula
2013-10-24 18:10 ` [PATCH 2/5] ALSA: hda - hdmi: Add ATI/AMD multi-channel audio support Anssi Hannula
2013-10-24 18:10 ` [PATCH 3/5] ALSA: hda - hdmi: Add ELD emulation for ATI/AMD codecs Anssi Hannula
2013-10-24 18:10 ` [PATCH 4/5] ALSA: hda - hdmi: Add HBR bitstreaming support for ATI/AMD HDMI codecs Anssi Hannula
2013-10-24 18:10 ` [PATCH 5/5] ALSA: hda - hdmi: Disable ramp-up/down for non-PCM on AMD codecs Anssi Hannula
2013-10-24 19:00   ` Anssi Hannula
2013-10-24 18:26 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] ALSA: hda - hdmi: ATI/AMD multi-channel and HBR support Anssi Hannula
2013-11-08  5:08   ` Olivier Langlois
2013-11-08 10:27     ` Anssi Hannula
2013-11-08 18:17       ` Olivier Langlois
2013-11-08 21:28         ` Olivier Langlois
2013-11-08 22:03           ` Anssi Hannula
2013-11-10  5:42             ` Olivier Langlois
2013-11-10  6:01               ` Anssi Hannula
2013-11-10  7:25                 ` speaker-test chmap bugs (was: [PATCH v3 0/5] ALSA: hda - hdmi: ATI/AMD multi-channel and HBR support) Anssi Hannula
2013-11-10 18:29                   ` [PATCH 1/3] speaker-test: Fix chmapped channel selection without specified chmap Anssi Hannula
2013-11-10 18:29                     ` [PATCH 2/3] speaker-test: Always show chmap channel names if available Anssi Hannula
2013-11-10 18:29                     ` [PATCH 3/3] speaker-test: Show out-of-chmap channels as Unknown Anssi Hannula
2013-11-11 15:56                     ` [PATCH 1/3] speaker-test: Fix chmapped channel selection without specified chmap Takashi Iwai
2013-11-11 20:23                       ` Anssi Hannula
2013-11-11 22:04                         ` [PATCH 1/3 v2] " Anssi Hannula
2013-11-12  8:11                           ` Takashi Iwai
2013-11-12 12:34                             ` Anssi Hannula
2013-11-12 13:08                               ` Takashi Iwai
2013-11-12  6:35                 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] ALSA: hda - hdmi: ATI/AMD multi-channel and HBR support Olivier Langlois
2013-11-14  0:04                   ` Anssi Hannula
2013-11-09  8:35         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-10-24 23:04 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-10-25 16:54   ` Andre Heider
2013-10-25 17:13     ` Takashi Iwai
2013-10-25 17:23     ` Anssi Hannula
2013-10-25 18:25       ` Andre Heider
2013-10-28 17:52       ` Andre Heider
2013-10-28 18:12         ` Anssi Hannula
2013-10-28 18:17           ` Andre Heider
2013-10-28 18:25             ` Anssi Hannula
2013-10-28 18:35               ` Andre Heider
2013-10-28 20:35                 ` Anssi Hannula
2013-10-28 22:00                   ` Andre Heider
2013-10-28 22:42                     ` Anssi Hannula
2013-10-28 23:15                       ` Andre Heider
2013-10-29 19:52                         ` LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT
2013-10-29 20:30                           ` Anssi Hannula
2013-10-28 23:19                       ` [PATCH] drm/radeon/audio: fix missing multichannel PCM SAD in some cases Anssi Hannula
2013-10-31 23:38                         ` Rafał Miłecki
2013-10-31 23:46                           ` Rafał Miłecki
2013-10-31 23:52                           ` Anssi Hannula
2013-11-02  1:01                         ` Rafał Miłecki
2013-11-02  1:08                           ` Anssi Hannula
2013-11-02  1:15                             ` Rafał Miłecki
2013-11-02  1:03                         ` Rafał Miłecki
2013-11-02 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] ALSA: hda - hdmi: ATI/AMD multi-channel and HBR support Anssi Hannula
2013-11-23  1:05 ` James Le Cuirot
2013-11-23  1:29   ` Anssi Hannula
2013-11-23 15:40     ` James Le Cuirot
2013-11-23 15:45       ` Anssi Hannula
2013-11-24 14:57         ` James Le Cuirot
2013-11-25 13:20           ` Anssi Hannula
2013-11-25 14:32             ` James Le Cuirot
2013-11-25 14:56               ` Anssi Hannula
2014-05-13 12:01                 ` James Le Cuirot
2014-05-13 12:27                   ` Anssi Hannula
2014-05-13 16:16                     ` James Le Cuirot
2014-05-13 21:10                       ` James Le Cuirot
2014-05-13 21:50                         ` Anssi Hannula [this message]
2014-05-14 13:04                           ` Deucher, Alexander
2014-05-14 13:19                             ` James Le Cuirot
2013-11-25 15:07   ` Raymond Yau
2013-11-25 15:32     ` James Le Cuirot
2013-11-25 19:35     ` Anssi Hannula

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