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From: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
To: Henrik Austad <henrik@austad.us>,
	"Alexander E. Patrakov" <patrakov@gmail.com>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	hansverk@cisco.com, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	haustad@cisco.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] AVB - network-based soundcards in ALSA
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:47:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5384977C.5070009@ladisch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140527090216.GB20915@austad.us>

Henrik Austad wrote:
> [...]
> As to moving samples from the buffer onto the network, one approach would
> be to wrap a set of samples and place it into a ready frame with headers
> and bits set and leave it in a buffer for the network layer to pick up.
>
> The exact method here is not clear to me yet, I need to experiment, and
> probably send something off to the networking guys. But before I do that,
> I'd like to have a reasonable sane idea of how ALSA should handle this.

ALSA expects that the sound card hardware fetches samples whenever it
needs them.

For USB and FireWire, there is a short queue of packets; the driver
appends new packets whenever a bunch of older packets has been completed
(as reported by an interrupt).

(This queue is separate from the ALSA ring buffer, which is then never
accessed directly by hardware.)

> The process of evening out the rate of samples is what traffic shaping and
> stream reservation will help you do (or enforce, ymmv), to some extent at
> least. The credit based shaper algorithm is designed to force bursty
> traffic into a steady stream.

In the case of USB and FireWire, the hardware already knows to send
isochronous packets at a rate of 8 kHz.

A 'normal' NIC wouldn't be able to do this.  Are there NICs that have
a separate queue for isochronous packets?  Or how else can this be
handled?


Regards,
Clemens

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-27 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-26 13:03 [RFC] AVB - network-based soundcards in ALSA Henrik Austad
2014-05-26 16:21 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-05-27  9:02   ` Henrik Austad
2014-05-27 12:10     ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-05-28  9:07       ` Henrik Austad
2014-05-27 13:47     ` Clemens Ladisch [this message]
2014-05-28  9:32       ` Henrik Austad
2014-05-28 13:12         ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-05-27 14:36 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-27 16:55   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2014-05-28  9:43     ` Henrik Austad
2014-05-28 15:14       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart

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