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From: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 21/30] ALSA: oxfw: Change the way to name
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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 15:17:25 +0900
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On Dec 2 2014 00:21, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> As for the shortname, it is not an internal identifier but typically
>>> displayed to identify the device for the user.  Something like
>>> "FWSpeakers" might be recognizable, but I'd prefer the old "FireWire
>>> Speakers".
>>
>> In this case (the old name), 'Speakers' is an identical name such as
>> 'hw:Speakers'. IMHO, this is a bit strange because it's usual, not
>> identical.
>
> You see now that you're breaking user's setup, don't you?
> This is another reason why you shouldn't change the short name
> string.

In this case, it depends on the estimated number of actual users for 
this device. At least, snd-firewire-speakers cannot handle this device 
correctly, while there're no bug reports, for 4 years. I think this is 
an evidence of few users.

...although havind said so, it's not my favorite to spend more time to 
such a small things, instead of more important things. I'll keep the 
naming rule what it was in next patchset.


Thanks

Takashi Sakamoto
o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp