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From: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
Subject: Re: firewire mixer interface -- was Re: [PATCH 11/11]
 ALSA: digi00x: apply double-oh-three algorism to multiplex PCM samples
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 23:45:40 +0900
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On Mar 20 2015 23:13, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Fri, 20 Mar 2015 22:51:25 +0900,
> Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
>>
>> On Mar 20 2015 22:35, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>>> I don't think it possible to argue the other ALSA developers for going
>>>> to include such vendor-specific or model-specific huge codes to
>>>> alsa-lib... (Except for intel HDA)
>>>
>>> Why not implementing as a plugin?
>>
>> As long as I know, we cannot write any configuration to load it for 'hw'
>> node. On the other hand, when adding any nodes like 'bebob' or 'dice',
>> they always stay in alsa-lib configuration space even if there're no
>> actual devices connected.
>>
>> If my understanding is wrong, please inform it to me.
> 
> You seem mixing up how to use the plugin setup and how to write the
> plugin...  The usage with a plugin might be more complex indeed, but
> it's more or less same no matter whether you implement in alsa-lib
> itself or implement as an external plugin.

Sorry, but I consider about one-step future.

I think it possible to discuss constructively about such plugins for
alsa-plugins, while its usage is not so easy for usual users of FireWire
audio devices. I can imagine to receive much requests about
improvements, then consider about including it to alsa-lib itself. But
this idea may be hard to achieve because of the reasons I describe.

I felt a bit unhappiness about your question and had a logic jump,
sorry. I'm not so tough developer...


Regards

Takashi Sakamoto