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From: David Henningsson <david.henningsson@canonical.com>
To: "Jie, Yang" <yang.jie@intel.com>,
	Tanu Kaskinen <tanu.kaskinen@linux.intel.com>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Liam Girdwood <liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com>,
	"alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	"broonie@kernel.org" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Girdwood, Liam R" <liam.r.girdwood@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] ALSA: jack: create jack kcontrols for every jack input device
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 09:27:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5518FAD5.1060502@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E7B1D079BA13FB44A978CC8F69C7D6A901BDE8AE@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>



On 2015-03-27 10:11, Jie, Yang wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Henningsson [mailto:david.henningsson@canonical.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:01 PM
>> To: Jie, Yang; Tanu Kaskinen; Takashi Iwai
>> Cc: perex@perex.cz; broonie@kernel.org; alsa-devel@alsa-project.org;
>> Girdwood, Liam R; Liam Girdwood
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] ALSA: jack: create jack kcontrols for every jack
>> input device
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-03-27 08:45, Jie, Yang wrote:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: David Henningsson [mailto:david.henningsson@canonical.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 2:50 PM
>>>> To: Jie, Yang; Tanu Kaskinen; Takashi Iwai
>>>> Cc: perex@perex.cz; broonie@kernel.org; alsa-devel@alsa-project.org;
>>>> Girdwood, Liam R; Liam Girdwood
>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] ALSA: jack: create jack kcontrols for
>>>> every jack input device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-03-26 13:43, Jie, Yang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, Correct a typo(removing line "create "Mic Jack" kctl;" in
>>>>> default case)
>>>>
>>>> It looks like your code can be simplified as:
>>> [Keyon] thanks, I will try simplify them.
>>>>
>>>> switch (type | SND_JACK_HEADSET) {
>>>> 	case SND_JACK_HEADSET:
>>>> 		create "Headset Mic Jack" kctl;
>>>> 		/* fall through */
>>>> 	case SND_JACK_MICROPHONE:
>>>> 	case SND_JACK_HEADPHONE:
>>>> 		create format("%s Jack", id) kctl;
>>> [Keyon] I don't want to fill "id" to kctl name, because sometimes it
>>> can be string which can't be understood by PA, such as:
>>>
>>> soc/intel/mfld_machine.c:       ret_val = snd_soc_card_jack_new(runtime-
>>> card,
>>> soc/intel/mfld_machine.c-                       "Intel(R) MID Audio Jack",
>> SND_JACK_HEADSET |
>>> soc/intel/mfld_machine.c-                       SND_JACK_BTN_0 |
>> SND_JACK_BTN_1, &mfld_jack,
>>>
>>> soc/omap/ams-delta.c:   ret = snd_soc_card_jack_new(card,
>> "hook_switch", SND_JACK_HEADSET,
>>> soc/omap/ams-delta.c-                               &ams_delta_hook_switch, NULL, 0);
>>
>> Ok, good point. It's a matter of different conventions between ASoC and
>> HDA. In ASoC, naming is wild west. In HDA, naming is (mostly) consistent and
>> we depend on the exact naming for userspace to know exactly how the jack
>> functions.
>>
>> Another example is HDMI/DisplayPort, where the hw often supports several
>> ports and we need to know which jack belongs to which PCM device, and we
>> use the name of the jack to determine that.
>>
>> I would very much prefer that all the ASoC jack names (and mixer control
>> names!) would be fixed up to be consistent to the extent that makes sense,
>> but the ASoC people haven't really agreed to do that, but instead prefer to
>> use a large database of UCM files. :-( And seen from a UCM context, that the
>> ASoC jacks are labelled terribly inconsistent, isn't that big of a deal given that
>> UCM will specify the jack name anyhow.
> [Keyon] that's the bad status. :(
> Maybe we can just make HDA jack kctls works and leave not standard name
> soc jack kctls invisible for PA?

If with "invisible for PA" you mean that there are still kctls created, 
but their naming of the jacks are non-standard, yes, I think this is an 
okay outcome of your patch.
I still think ASoC should change their jack naming to be more 
consistent, but that can be addressed in some future patch set.


-- 
David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd.
https://launchpad.net/~diwic

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-30  7:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-20  8:55 [PATCH v2 0/2] ALSA: jack: Refactoring for jack kctls Jie Yang
2015-03-20  8:55 ` Jie Yang
2015-03-20  8:55 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] ALSA: jack: create jack kcontrols for every jack input device Jie Yang
2015-03-20  9:27   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-03-20  9:29     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-03-20 12:22     ` Jie, Yang
2015-03-20 12:26       ` Takashi Iwai
2015-03-20 12:50         ` Jie, Yang
2015-03-20 13:21           ` Takashi Iwai
2015-03-20 13:49             ` Jie, Yang
2015-03-20 14:18               ` Takashi Iwai
2015-03-23 10:56                 ` Tanu Kaskinen
2015-03-23 11:51                   ` David Henningsson
2015-03-23 11:59                     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-03-23 16:41                     ` Mark Brown
2015-03-24  6:50                       ` David Henningsson
2015-03-24 17:57                         ` Mark Brown
2015-03-25  0:48                           ` Raymond Yau
2015-03-25  2:14                         ` Raymond Yau
2015-03-25 13:53                     ` Jie, Yang
2015-03-25 16:13                       ` Raymond Yau
2015-03-26  6:42                       ` David Henningsson
2015-03-26  8:29                         ` Jie, Yang
2015-03-26  9:05                           ` David Henningsson
2015-03-26 12:39                             ` Jie, Yang
2015-03-27  0:39                               ` Raymond Yau
2015-03-27  2:13                                 ` Jie, Yang
2015-03-26 12:43                             ` Jie, Yang
2015-03-27  6:50                               ` David Henningsson
2015-03-27  7:45                                 ` Jie, Yang
2015-03-27  8:01                                   ` David Henningsson
2015-03-27  9:11                                     ` Jie, Yang
2015-03-30  7:27                                       ` David Henningsson [this message]
2015-03-26  2:34                     ` Raymond Yau
2015-03-25  7:53                   ` Jie, Yang
2015-03-25  9:27                     ` Tanu Kaskinen
2015-03-25 14:13                       ` Jie, Yang
2015-03-28  6:09           ` Raymond Yau
2015-03-20 10:30   ` Raymond Yau
2015-03-20  8:55 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ALSA: hda - Remove jack kctls Jie Yang

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