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From: Jonathan Tinkham <sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] soc/sound: tegra_max98090: do not invert headphone jack
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:10:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56BE9094.1040500@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56B8E5AD.8040707-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>

On 02/08/2016 11:59 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 02/04/2016 12:05 PM, Jonathan Tinkham wrote:
>> On 02/04/2016 09:36 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>> On 02/03/2016 10:30 PM, Jonathan Tinkham wrote:
>>>> The headphone jack should not be inverted
>>>
>>> Have you tested this on Venice2 as well as Nyan? I'm pretty sure
>>> Venice2 was tested when this driver was written, and whoever added
>>> Nyan support to the kernel simply assumed it would work. As such, my
>>> suspicion is that this series will break Venice2 even as it fixes Nyan.
>>
>> I have not tested this on Venice2, only on Nyan. That seems like a
>> plausible cause and reasonable suspicion.
>>
>>> Why doesn't user-space expect what the kernel actually implements? The
>>> kernel should be defining the control naming.
>>>
>>> Which user-space are you using specifically, and which part of it
>>> expects particular naming?
>>>
>>> Perhaps this series needs to be parametrized based on a flag in DT,
>>> rather than switching the hard-coded values, so that only Venice2 can
>>> be affected?
>>
>> Specifically pulse-audio and alsa under Arch Linux.
>>
>> I was referencing 'Documentation/sound/alsa/soc/dapm.txt' with regards
>> to control names. While it is possible to add another entry into the
>> user-space configuration, I took this documentation as a definition of
>> kernel control naming schemes, and thought the driver had used a
>> non-standard naming scheme (or at least, not a consistent one).
>>
>>> On 02/03/2016 10:31 PM, Jonathan Tinkham wrote:
>>>> Update device-tree bindings to reflect the rename of the board's
>>>> headphone jack.
>>>
>>> This looks like an incompatible change to the DT. While you've fixed
>>> the DT, which will fix new installations, old DTs now won't work. This
>>> breaks DT ABI. Any DT change needs to be backwards compatible, i.e.
>>> the old name should still work and be documented as a legacy value.
>>
>> I see that now. If the inversion behavior differs between venice2 and
>> nyan, then another compatible string would need to be added anyways,
>> correct? As you mentioned above, this might need to be done anyways for
>> the rename.
>>
>> Something like:
>> - "compatible = nvidia,tegra-audio-max98090" implements old inversion
>> behavior and leaves the switch as "Headphones" to avoid breaking 
>> older DTs
>> - "compatible = nvidia,tegra-{venice2,nyan}-audio-max98090" that
>> separates the inversion behavior and also introduces the rename
>
> It'd be preferable to key this off an separate flag rather than the 
> compatible value. That would more directly represent the data in 
> question, and allow any future boards to be added without having to 
> edit the driver to know whether those new boards neded HP DET 
> inversion or not.
>
> However, do note that each of the 3 boards using this binding has a 
> board-specific compatible value present already:
>
> nvidia,tegra-audio-max98090-venice2
> nvidia,tegra-audio-max98090-nyan-blaze
> nvidia,tegra-audio-max98090-nyan-big

Indeed, I noticed those compatible strings after I sent that message.

A property seems the more ideal/desired way to go. However, to avoid 
breaking older DTs, does that mean it must be implemented as assuming 
inversion is default, and set nyan and other boards to "hd-invert = 0"?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-13  2:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-04  5:30 [PATCH 0/4] Fix headphone detection on Acer Chromebook 13 Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found] ` <1454563862-1971-1-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04  5:30   ` [PATCH 1/4] soc/sound: tegra_max98090: do not invert headphone jack Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]     ` <1454563862-1971-2-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 16:36       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <56B37E19.6010002-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 19:05           ` Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]             ` <56B3A10E.4010508-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 19:17               ` Dylan Reid
     [not found]                 ` <CAEUnVG7bCgzC-f_Anaw6qayGsXi=_NrWZGRy7SSALkLVLPZnUQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-08 18:56                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                     ` <56B8E4D8.8070604-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-13  2:12                       ` Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                         ` <56BE9125.3060104-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-16 21:43                           ` Stephen Warren
2016-02-04 19:37               ` Mark Brown
2016-02-08 18:59               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                 ` <56B8E5AD.8040707-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-13  2:10                   ` Jonathan Tinkham [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <56BE9094.1040500-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-16 21:41                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                         ` <56C3977E.8050001-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22  6:24                           ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix headphone detection on Acer Chromebook 13 Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                             ` <1456122253-3039-1-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22  6:24                               ` [PATCH 1/3] dt/bindings: Add 'nvidia,hd-no-invert' option Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                                 ` <1456122253-3039-2-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 19:48                                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                     ` <56CB6624.6030600-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 21:12                                       ` Jonathan Tinkham
2016-02-23 17:19                                       ` [PATCH] sound/soc/tegra: tegra_max98090: fix hp detect on Chromebook 13 Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                                         ` <1456247985-5563-1-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 17:19                                           ` [PATCH] sound/soc/tegra: tegra_max98090: Invert headphone by GPIO flag Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                                             ` <1456247985-5563-2-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 17:35                                               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                                 ` <56CC9860.2060003-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-24 16:42                                                   ` Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                                                     ` <56CDDD82.7040402-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-24 16:45                                                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                                         ` <56CDDE35.1010408-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-24 16:51                                                           ` Jonathan Tinkham
2016-03-02 17:43                                                   ` [PATCH] AsoC: tegra_max98090: honor headphone detect GPIO polarity Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                                                     ` <1456940623-1496-1-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-03 18:37                                                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                                         ` <56D8845A.4050704-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-04 17:42                                                           ` Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                                                             ` <56D9C921.7080802-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-04 17:47                                                               ` Stephen Warren
2016-02-24  3:25                                           ` [PATCH] sound/soc/tegra: tegra_max98090: fix hp detect on Chromebook 13 Mark Brown
     [not found]                                             ` <20160224032552.GJ18327-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-24 16:43                                               ` Jonathan Tinkham
2016-02-22  6:24                               ` [PATCH 2/3] sound/soc/tegra: tegra_max98090: add 'nvidia,hd-no-invert' option Jonathan Tinkham
2016-02-22  6:24                               ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM: tegra: Do not invert nyan headphone detection signal Jonathan Tinkham
2016-02-22  9:46                               ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix headphone detection on Acer Chromebook 13 Mark Brown
2016-02-04  5:31   ` [PATCH 2/4] sound/soc: tegra_max98090: rename headphone jack DAPM Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]     ` <1454563862-1971-3-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 16:38       ` Stephen Warren
2016-02-04  5:31   ` [PATCH 3/4] sound/soc: tegra_max98090: document headphone jack rename Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]     ` <1454563862-1971-4-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 16:39       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <56B37EAC.5010101-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 19:22           ` Dylan Reid
2016-02-04  5:31   ` [PATCH 4/4] soc/sound: tegra_max98090: update dts affected by rename Jonathan Tinkham
2016-02-04 18:03   ` [PATCH 0/4] Fix headphone detection on Acer Chromebook 13 Mark Brown

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