Re: Issues with ALSA:ice1724 sound cards on powerpc machines

Re: Issues with ALSA:ice1724 sound cards on powerpc machines

[Julian Margetson]

On 2/17/2016 2:29 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
> Hi
>
> Having an issue issue with ice1724 sound cards on powerpc motherboards.
> Motherboards in question Acube Sam460ex .
> The card appears as a valid device but there is no sound output on the 
> majority of boots of the computer.
> Logs attached.
> On the first set boot audio playback produced sound ok.
> On the second set boot no sound was produce with audio playback
>
>
> Regards
> Julian Margetson
>
>
>
Issue also with A-Eon Cyrus powerpc  motherboard .

Re: Issues with ALSA:ice1724 sound cards on powerpc machines

[Julian Margetson]

On 2/17/2016 2:29 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
> Hi
>
> Having an issue issue with ice1724 sound cards on powerpc motherboards.
> Motherboards in question Acube Sam460ex .
> The card appears as a valid device but there is no sound output on the 
> majority of boots of the computer.
> Logs attached.
> On the first set boot audio playback produced sound ok.
> On the second set boot no sound was produce with audio playback
>
>
> Regards
> Julian Margetson
>
>
>
Anyone have any ideas ?

Resubmitting again with links to logs instead of included as attachments.
The issue also seen on A-Eon Cyrus P5020 motherboard .

https://www.dropbox.com/s/72labcje9z1r1b7/1alsa-info.txt.7CLHMG0Gap?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1pn5kjqrvwu16f/boot_1.log?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uuaa14rkpmmz1o0/2alsa-info.txt.VKiEVuytiJ?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwu2f5t93l8g26d/boot_2.log?dl=0

Thanks

Re: Issues with ALSA:ice1724 sound cards on powerpc machines

[Takashi Iwai]

On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 21:58:14 +0200,
Julian Margetson wrote:
> 
> On 2/17/2016 2:29 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Having an issue issue with ice1724 sound cards on powerpc motherboards.
> > Motherboards in question Acube Sam460ex .
> > The card appears as a valid device but there is no sound output on the 
> > majority of boots of the computer.
> > Logs attached.
> > On the first set boot audio playback produced sound ok.
> > On the second set boot no sound was produce with audio playback
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Julian Margetson
> >
> >
> >
> Anyone have any ideas ?
> 
> Resubmitting again with links to logs instead of included as attachments.
> The issue also seen on A-Eon Cyrus P5020 motherboard .
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/72labcje9z1r1b7/1alsa-info.txt.7CLHMG0Gap?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1pn5kjqrvwu16f/boot_1.log?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uuaa14rkpmmz1o0/2alsa-info.txt.VKiEVuytiJ?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwu2f5t93l8g26d/boot_2.log?dl=0

I have no concrete idea, but in general, the usual problems on PPC are
either related with cache coherency or byte endianness.  I don't know
of any issue with the latter in ice1724 driver, so likely it's the
former.

Do you get DMA transfer error, or is just the silent output?  In the
former case, the problem is usually in ice1724.c, as it's the DMA
controller part.  The latter is, OTOH, likely a codec issue, and it's
either in each sound/pci/ice1712/*.c (the corresponding one) or in i2c
driver sound/i2c/*.

But unfortunately it's not easy to track such an issue remotely, and
hard to guess without the hardware response.


Takashi

Re: Issues with ALSA:ice1724 sound cards on powerpc machines

[Pavel Hofman]

Dne 11.4.2016 v 16:11 Takashi Iwai napsal(a):
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 21:58:14 +0200,
> Julian Margetson wrote:
>>
>> On 2/17/2016 2:29 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Having an issue issue with ice1724 sound cards on powerpc motherboards.
>>> Motherboards in question Acube Sam460ex .
>>> The card appears as a valid device but there is no sound output on the
>>> majority of boots of the computer.
>>> Logs attached.
>>> On the first set boot audio playback produced sound ok.
>>> On the second set boot no sound was produce with audio playback
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Julian Margetson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Anyone have any ideas ?
>>
>> Resubmitting again with links to logs instead of included as attachments.
>> The issue also seen on A-Eon Cyrus P5020 motherboard .
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/72labcje9z1r1b7/1alsa-info.txt.7CLHMG0Gap?dl=0
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1pn5kjqrvwu16f/boot_1.log?dl=0
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uuaa14rkpmmz1o0/2alsa-info.txt.VKiEVuytiJ?dl=0
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwu2f5t93l8g26d/boot_2.log?dl=0
>
> I have no concrete idea, but in general, the usual problems on PPC are
> either related with cache coherency or byte endianness.  I don't know
> of any issue with the latter in ice1724 driver, so likely it's the
> former.
>

Perhaps the ice1724 driver was not even tested properly with the AC97 
codec. Do we know of any separate PCI ice1724 card with this codec?

Regards,

Pavel Hofman.

Re: Issues with ALSA:ice1724 sound cards on powerpc machines

[Takashi Iwai]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:44:26 +0200,
Pavel Hofman wrote:
> 
> Dne 11.4.2016 v 16:11 Takashi Iwai napsal(a):
> > On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 21:58:14 +0200,
> > Julian Margetson wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2/17/2016 2:29 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> Having an issue issue with ice1724 sound cards on powerpc motherboards.
> >>> Motherboards in question Acube Sam460ex .
> >>> The card appears as a valid device but there is no sound output on the
> >>> majority of boots of the computer.
> >>> Logs attached.
> >>> On the first set boot audio playback produced sound ok.
> >>> On the second set boot no sound was produce with audio playback
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Julian Margetson
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Anyone have any ideas ?
> >>
> >> Resubmitting again with links to logs instead of included as attachments.
> >> The issue also seen on A-Eon Cyrus P5020 motherboard .
> >>
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/72labcje9z1r1b7/1alsa-info.txt.7CLHMG0Gap?dl=0
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1pn5kjqrvwu16f/boot_1.log?dl=0
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uuaa14rkpmmz1o0/2alsa-info.txt.VKiEVuytiJ?dl=0
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwu2f5t93l8g26d/boot_2.log?dl=0
> >
> > I have no concrete idea, but in general, the usual problems on PPC are
> > either related with cache coherency or byte endianness.  I don't know
> > of any issue with the latter in ice1724 driver, so likely it's the
> > former.
> >
> 
> Perhaps the ice1724 driver was not even tested properly with the AC97 
> codec.
>
> Do we know of any separate PCI ice1724 card with this codec?

It was tested on some boards, IIRC, but I don't remember which.
It might be some test board.  So, I can't comment whether it's broken
or not :)


Takashi

Re: Issues with ALSA:ice1724 sound cards on powerpc machines

[Julian Margetson]

On 4/11/2016 10:44 AM, Pavel Hofman wrote:
> Dne 11.4.2016 v 16:11 Takashi Iwai napsal(a):
>> On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 21:58:14 +0200,
>> Julian Margetson wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/17/2016 2:29 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Having an issue issue with ice1724 sound cards on powerpc 
>>>> motherboards.
>>>> Motherboards in question Acube Sam460ex .
>>>> The card appears as a valid device but there is no sound output on the
>>>> majority of boots of the computer.
>>>> Logs attached.
>>>> On the first set boot audio playback produced sound ok.
>>>> On the second set boot no sound was produce with audio playback
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Julian Margetson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Anyone have any ideas ?
>>>
>>> Resubmitting again with links to logs instead of included as 
>>> attachments.
>>> The issue also seen on A-Eon Cyrus P5020 motherboard .
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/72labcje9z1r1b7/1alsa-info.txt.7CLHMG0Gap?dl=0 
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1pn5kjqrvwu16f/boot_1.log?dl=0
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uuaa14rkpmmz1o0/2alsa-info.txt.VKiEVuytiJ?dl=0 
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwu2f5t93l8g26d/boot_2.log?dl=0
>>
>> I have no concrete idea, but in general, the usual problems on PPC are
>> either related with cache coherency or byte endianness.  I don't know
>> of any issue with the latter in ice1724 driver, so likely it's the
>> former.
>>
>
> Perhaps the ice1724 driver was not even tested properly with the AC97 
> codec. Do we know of any separate PCI ice1724 card with this codec?
>
> Regards,
>
> Pavel Hofman.
>
>
The second board mentioned , the Aeon Cyrus ,uses a P5020 so is cache 
coherent .
The problem may be in the initialization of the sound card as on some 
boots with my board , an Acube Sam460ex, it works perfectly.  I have  
tested a CMI8738 pciex1 sound card which works perfectly as do USB cm108 
based external cards .

I also have a PCI ice1724 version of the card  (never used in this 
machine) as well as 2 different pciex1  ice1724 cards with the codec .
The Sam460ex only has 1 pci slot normally used for the SATA card and 1 
shared pcie or SATA II.
I could test with  the pci card by booting from USB .
So either configure as 1 pciex1 slot or 1 on board SATA II .
I am helping to test the onboard sata-dwc but am happy to test any ideas 
for a solution to the audio issues as well.
Will mean reconfiguring my machine back an forth but worth it for 
solutions in both areas .

Regards
Julian

Re: Issues with ALSA:ice1724 sound cards on powerpc machines

[Julian Margetson]

On 4/11/2016 1:32 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
> On 4/11/2016 10:44 AM, Pavel Hofman wrote:
>> Dne 11.4.2016 v 16:11 Takashi Iwai napsal(a):
>>> On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 21:58:14 +0200,
>>> Julian Margetson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2/17/2016 2:29 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> Having an issue issue with ice1724 sound cards on powerpc 
>>>>> motherboards.
>>>>> Motherboards in question Acube Sam460ex .
>>>>> The card appears as a valid device but there is no sound output on 
>>>>> the
>>>>> majority of boots of the computer.
>>>>> Logs attached.
>>>>> On the first set boot audio playback produced sound ok.
>>>>> On the second set boot no sound was produce with audio playback
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Julian Margetson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any ideas ?
>>>>
>>>> Resubmitting again with links to logs instead of included as 
>>>> attachments.
>>>> The issue also seen on A-Eon Cyrus P5020 motherboard .
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/72labcje9z1r1b7/1alsa-info.txt.7CLHMG0Gap?dl=0 
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1pn5kjqrvwu16f/boot_1.log?dl=0
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uuaa14rkpmmz1o0/2alsa-info.txt.VKiEVuytiJ?dl=0 
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwu2f5t93l8g26d/boot_2.log?dl=0
>>>
>>> I have no concrete idea, but in general, the usual problems on PPC are
>>> either related with cache coherency or byte endianness.  I don't know
>>> of any issue with the latter in ice1724 driver, so likely it's the
>>> former.
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps the ice1724 driver was not even tested properly with the AC97 
>> codec. Do we know of any separate PCI ice1724 card with this codec?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pavel Hofman.
>>
>>
> The second board mentioned , the Aeon Cyrus ,uses a P5020 so is cache 
> coherent .
> The problem may be in the initialization of the sound card as on some 
> boots with my board , an Acube Sam460ex, it works perfectly. I have  
> tested a CMI8738 pciex1 sound card which works perfectly as do USB 
> cm108 based external cards .
>
> I also have a PCI ice1724 version of the card  (never used in this 
> machine) as well as 2 different pciex1  ice1724 cards with the codec .
> The Sam460ex only has 1 pci slot normally used for the SATA card and 1 
> shared pcie or SATA II.
> I could test with  the pci card by booting from USB .
> So either configure as 1 pciex1 slot or 1 on board SATA II .
> I am helping to test the onboard sata-dwc but am happy to test any 
> ideas for a solution to the audio issues as well.
> Will mean reconfiguring my machine back an forth but worth it for 
> solutions in both areas .
>
> Regards
> Julian
>
>
>
>
This is the pci model .

http://www.amazon.com/SIIG-Soundwave-5-1-Pci-lp-LP-000022-S2/dp/B0036VNVWE

Re: Issues with ALSA:ice1724 sound cards on powerpc machines

[Julian Margetson]

On 4/11/2016 6:14 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
> On 4/11/2016 1:32 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
>> On 4/11/2016 10:44 AM, Pavel Hofman wrote:
>>> Dne 11.4.2016 v 16:11 Takashi Iwai napsal(a):
>>>> On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 21:58:14 +0200,
>>>> Julian Margetson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/17/2016 2:29 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having an issue issue with ice1724 sound cards on powerpc 
>>>>>> motherboards.
>>>>>> Motherboards in question Acube Sam460ex .
>>>>>> The card appears as a valid device but there is no sound output 
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> majority of boots of the computer.
>>>>>> Logs attached.
>>>>>> On the first set boot audio playback produced sound ok.
>>>>>> On the second set boot no sound was produce with audio playback
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Julian Margetson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any ideas ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Resubmitting again with links to logs instead of included as 
>>>>> attachments.
>>>>> The issue also seen on A-Eon Cyrus P5020 motherboard .
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/72labcje9z1r1b7/1alsa-info.txt.7CLHMG0Gap?dl=0 
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1pn5kjqrvwu16f/boot_1.log?dl=0
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uuaa14rkpmmz1o0/2alsa-info.txt.VKiEVuytiJ?dl=0 
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwu2f5t93l8g26d/boot_2.log?dl=0
>>>>
>>>> I have no concrete idea, but in general, the usual problems on PPC are
>>>> either related with cache coherency or byte endianness.  I don't know
>>>> of any issue with the latter in ice1724 driver, so likely it's the
>>>> former.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps the ice1724 driver was not even tested properly with the 
>>> AC97 codec. Do we know of any separate PCI ice1724 card with this 
>>> codec?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Pavel Hofman.
>>>
>>>
>> The second board mentioned , the Aeon Cyrus ,uses a P5020 so is cache 
>> coherent .
>> The problem may be in the initialization of the sound card as on some 
>> boots with my board , an Acube Sam460ex, it works perfectly. I have  
>> tested a CMI8738 pciex1 sound card which works perfectly as do USB 
>> cm108 based external cards .
>>
>> I also have a PCI ice1724 version of the card  (never used in this 
>> machine) as well as 2 different pciex1  ice1724 cards with the codec .
>> The Sam460ex only has 1 pci slot normally used for the SATA card and 
>> 1 shared pcie or SATA II.
>> I could test with  the pci card by booting from USB .
>> So either configure as 1 pciex1 slot or 1 on board SATA II .
>> I am helping to test the onboard sata-dwc but am happy to test any 
>> ideas for a solution to the audio issues as well.
>> Will mean reconfiguring my machine back an forth but worth it for 
>> solutions in both areas .
>>
>> Regards
>> Julian
>>
>>
>>
>>
> This is the pci model .
>
> http://www.amazon.com/SIIG-Soundwave-5-1-Pci-lp-LP-000022-S2/dp/B0036VNVWE 
>

PCI model has IRQ problem with the Sam460ex so that option wont be of 
any help.

[    6.283945] snd_ice1724 0001:00:04.0: unable to grab IRQ 0
[    6.283973] snd_ice1724: probe of 0001:00:04.0 failed with error -5

Re: Issues with ALSA:ice1724 sound cards on powerpc machines

[Julian Margetson]

On 4/11/2016 6:14 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
> On 4/11/2016 1:32 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
>> On 4/11/2016 10:44 AM, Pavel Hofman wrote:
>>> Dne 11.4.2016 v 16:11 Takashi Iwai napsal(a):
>>>> On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 21:58:14 +0200,
>>>> Julian Margetson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/17/2016 2:29 PM, Julian Margetson wrote:
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having an issue issue with ice1724 sound cards on powerpc 
>>>>>> motherboards.
>>>>>> Motherboards in question Acube Sam460ex .
>>>>>> The card appears as a valid device but there is no sound output 
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> majority of boots of the computer.
>>>>>> Logs attached.
>>>>>> On the first set boot audio playback produced sound ok.
>>>>>> On the second set boot no sound was produce with audio playback
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Julian Margetson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any ideas ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Resubmitting again with links to logs instead of included as 
>>>>> attachments.
>>>>> The issue also seen on A-Eon Cyrus P5020 motherboard .
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/72labcje9z1r1b7/1alsa-info.txt.7CLHMG0Gap?dl=0 
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1pn5kjqrvwu16f/boot_1.log?dl=0
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uuaa14rkpmmz1o0/2alsa-info.txt.VKiEVuytiJ?dl=0 
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwu2f5t93l8g26d/boot_2.log?dl=0
>>>>
>>>> I have no concrete idea, but in general, the usual problems on PPC are
>>>> either related with cache coherency or byte endianness.  I don't know
>>>> of any issue with the latter in ice1724 driver, so likely it's the
>>>> former.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps the ice1724 driver was not even tested properly with the 
>>> AC97 codec. Do we know of any separate PCI ice1724 card with this 
>>> codec?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Pavel Hofman.
>>>
>>>
>> The second board mentioned , the Aeon Cyrus ,uses a P5020 so is cache 
>> coherent .
>> The problem may be in the initialization of the sound card as on some 
>> boots with my board , an Acube Sam460ex, it works perfectly. I have  
>> tested a CMI8738 pciex1 sound card which works perfectly as do USB 
>> cm108 based external cards .
>>
>> I also have a PCI ice1724 version of the card  (never used in this 
>> machine) as well as 2 different pciex1  ice1724 cards with the codec .
>> The Sam460ex only has 1 pci slot normally used for the SATA card and 
>> 1 shared pcie or SATA II.
>> I could test with  the pci card by booting from USB .
>> So either configure as 1 pciex1 slot or 1 on board SATA II .
>> I am helping to test the onboard sata-dwc but am happy to test any 
>> ideas for a solution to the audio issues as well.
>> Will mean reconfiguring my machine back an forth but worth it for 
>> solutions in both areas .
>>
>> Regards
>> Julian
>>
>>
>>
>>
> This is the pci model .
>
> http://www.amazon.com/SIIG-Soundwave-5-1-Pci-lp-LP-000022-S2/dp/B0036VNVWE 
>

I tried one of my pciex1 cards in an x86 machine and am seeing the same 
issue. so
looks like it is not only powerpc related.

This is the model in the x86 machine.
http://www.auto-gadget.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=48531

This is the model in my powerpc machine
http://www.nextwarehouse.com/item/?1166624_g10e