From: Oleksandr Andrushchenko <andr2000@gmail.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>,
Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
Cc: Oleksandr Andrushchenko <andr2000@gmail.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel][PATCH 0/2] sndif: add explicit back and front synchronization
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:29:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c1096ea-3cb7-15c3-18df-b0204d1b9abb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1517819100-1029-1-git-send-email-andr2000@gmail.com>
Hello,
Konrad, Takashi, Takashi and Clemens!
Could you please take a look at this series if it meets
ALSA expectations on para-virtualized sound for Xen?
Thank you,
Oleksandr
On 02/05/2018 10:24 AM, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote:
> From: Oleksandr Andrushchenko <oleksandr_andrushchenko@epam.com>
>
> Hi, all!
>
> Foreword
> ========
>
> This change is aimed to add support for explicit back and front
> synchronization during playback and capture in response to comments
> raised during upstream attempt of the para-virtualized sound frontend
> driver for Xen [1], [2] and gather opinions from the relevant communities
> (ALSA, Xen) on the change.
>
> The relevant backend is implemented as a user-space application [3]
> and uses accompanying helper library [4].
>
> Both frontend driver and backend were tested on real HW running Xen hypervisor
> (Renesas R-Car ARM based H3/M3 boards, x86) to make sure the proposed
> solution does work.
>
> Rationale
> =========
>
> During the first attempt to upstream the Linux front driver [5] number
> of comments and concerns were raised, one of the biggest flaws in the
> design were questioned by both Clemens Ladisch [6] and
> Takashi Sakamoto [7]: the absence of synchronization between frontend
> and backend during capture/playback. Two options were discussed:
>
> “In design of ALSA PCM core, drivers are expected to synchronize to
> actual hardwares for semi-realtime data transmission. The
> synchronization is done by two points:
> 1) Interrupts to respond events from actual hardwares.
> 2) Positions of actual data transmission in any serial sound interfaces
> of actual hardwares.
> “
>
> and finally a change to the existing protocol was suggested:
>
> “In 'include/xen/interface/io/sndif.h', there's no functionalities I
> described the above:
> 1. notifications from DomU to Dom0 about the size of period for
> interrupts from actual hardwares. Or no way from Dom0 to DomU about
> the configured size of the period.
> 2. notifications of the interrupts from actual hardwares to DomU.”
>
> This is implemented as a change to the sndif protocol and allows removing
> period emulation:
> 1. Introduced a new event channel from back to front
> 2. New event with number of bytes played/captured (XENSND_EVT_CUR_POS,
> to be used for sending snd_pcm_period_elapsed at frontend (in Linux
> implementation). Sent in bytes, not frames to make the protocol
> generic and consistent)
> 3. New request for playback/capture control (XENSND_OP_TRIGGER) with
> start/pause/stop/resume sub-ops
> 4. Playback/capture buffer size is set on the backend side via
> XENSND_FIELD_BUFFER_SIZE XenStore entry
>
> Waiting for your valuable comments,
>
> Thank you,
> Oleksandr
>
> [1] https://github.com/andr2000/linux/commits/snd_upstream_v1
> [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/include/xen/interface/io/sndif.h
> [3] https://github.com/xen-troops/snd_be
> [4] https://github.com/xen-troops/libxenbe
> [5] https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/8/7/363
> [6] http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2017-August/123617.html
> [7] http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2017-August/123744.html
>
>
> Oleksandr Andrushchenko (2):
> sndif: introduce protocol version
> sndif: add explicit back and front synchronization
>
> xen/include/public/io/sndif.h | 173 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 170 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-05 8:24 [PATCH 0/2] sndif: add explicit back and front synchronization Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-02-05 8:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] sndif: introduce protocol version Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-01 22:12 ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-02-05 8:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] sndif: add explicit back and front synchronization Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-01 22:11 ` [Xen-devel][PATCH " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-03-02 6:30 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-02-19 6:31 ` [Xen-devel][PATCH 0/2] " Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-01 6:29 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko [this message]
2018-03-02 16:52 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-06 10:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-03-06 11:25 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-06 11:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-03-06 12:05 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-06 12:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-03-06 13:30 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-06 13:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-03-06 14:13 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-06 14:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-03-06 14:48 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-06 15:06 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-03-06 16:04 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-06 16:30 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-03-07 8:49 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-11 8:15 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-03-12 6:26 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-13 11:49 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-13 16:31 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-03-13 17:31 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-03-13 18:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-03-14 7:32 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
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