From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26280C433E1 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 18:12:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alsa0.perex.cz (alsa0.perex.cz [77.48.224.243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DAEE20838 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 18:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=alsa-project.org header.i=@alsa-project.org header.b="kdoxHztH" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 8DAEE20838 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=intel.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Received: from alsa1.perex.cz (alsa1.perex.cz [207.180.221.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 020461660; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:11:35 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 alsa0.perex.cz 020461660 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=alsa-project.org; s=default; t=1597342345; bh=8wXfnPCSKLYnko8h5/nwUksq2pfuP43aoka6mw0rAKU=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:Cc:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From; b=kdoxHztHMQx91iw5ps1vlyUu+OB68CMYinhjZstrBErtYzVKMijqUdbGVV3WAfTM0 VANXaoHdp496VtyQfFAe+w9JshPu0S9Uponuoy/2CpnjASh5zeND18I3Y6dJbUeS+Q nFo41b5AbM8xplS4Tms7UJ7aD7ShC4t3D/TYCGGA= Received: from alsa1.perex.cz (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8280AF8014C; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:11:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix, from userid 50401) id 35A4DF8015B; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:11:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mga05.intel.com (mga05.intel.com [192.55.52.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD066F800D3 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:11:26 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 alsa1.perex.cz DD066F800D3 IronPort-SDR: G/juiyWEtOT1x0nAm9Nqu1zSL6KXMyuxEA2NkXTk+dCFE2KGQvT7iaRVvkp3Y4iD1nzp89iSXD xQXYarALoE9Q== X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6000,8403,9712"; a="239129496" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.76,309,1592895600"; d="scan'208";a="239129496" X-Amp-Result: SKIPPED(no attachment in message) X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False Received: from fmsmga004.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.48]) by fmsmga105.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 13 Aug 2020 11:11:25 -0700 IronPort-SDR: noM8lILL/AXcjeBwYYvutTscMz1Q0MSIJkHtjGKdiDlbR2Okf+9Sg5lvWsBnQAsOh59SjvQhUS haSfgegyZ03A== X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.76,309,1592895600"; d="scan'208";a="318615710" Received: from crojewsk-mobl1.ger.corp.intel.com (HELO [10.213.3.111]) ([10.213.3.111]) by fmsmga004.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2020 11:11:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/13] ASoC: Intel: Catpt - Lynx and Wildcat point To: Liam Girdwood , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org References: <20200812205753.29115-1-cezary.rojewski@intel.com> <7f6f652f36d8654560f038326f841624ffeb649a.camel@linux.intel.com> From: Cezary Rojewski Message-ID: <7eb3dd69-d45e-2915-c18f-de286b5d630e@intel.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:11:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7f6f652f36d8654560f038326f841624ffeb649a.camel@linux.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: andriy.shevchenko@intel.com, filip.kaczmarski@intel.com, harshapriya.n@intel.com, ppapierkowski@habana.ai, marcin.barlik@intel.com, zwisler@google.com, pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com, lgirdwood@gmail.com, filip.proborszcz@intel.com, broonie@kernel.org, amadeuszx.slawinski@linux.intel.com, michal.wasko@intel.com, tiwai@suse.com, krzysztof.hejmowski@intel.com, cujomalainey@chromium.org, vamshi.krishna.gopal@intel.com X-BeenThere: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Alsa-devel mailing list for ALSA developers - http://www.alsa-project.org" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: "Alsa-devel" On 2020-08-13 6:00 PM, Liam Girdwood wrote: > On Wed, 2020-08-12 at 22:57 +0200, Cezary Rojewski wrote: >> Implement support for Lynxpoint and Wildcat Point AudioDSP. Catpt >> >> solution deprecates existing sound/soc/intel/haswell which is removed >> in >> >> the following series. This cover-letter is followed by 'Developer's >> deep >> >> dive' message schedding light on catpt's key concepts and areas >> >> addressed. > > Whilst I applaud removing the old driver I do NOT support adding yet > *another* Intel audio DSP driver. Our goal is to remove DSP drivers and > unify under one codebase (and this was discussed in Lyon last year at > the audio Miniconf). > > Please take all these good improvements and add them into the SOF > driver. > > Please also remember that we are adding an IPC abstraction layer into > the SOF driver so it can cope with multiple IPC versions. You are most > welcome to help in this effort. > Presented catpt is created as a solution to existing problems reported by clients and users for WPT platforms. It is not "yet another" DSP driver but an update to an existing one - due to high range of problems found when testing it, catpt came as a lower-cost solution and /haswell/ is being removed soon after. So, the status quo is maintained - single driver for LPT/WPT architecture. Please don't use 'our goal' term, it's misplaced: it was agreed on several occasions that older DSP platforms remain with closed firmware and are to be supported with existing DSP drivers. SOF FW does not support BDW and instead is tasked with support of newer platforms. Neither SOF FW team nor Chrome support team agreed with WPT being moved out of closed firmware. Please, speak with management first before writing statements saying otherwise. I don't see your input for any of the patches. Internal heads-up has been given. No review for either internal or upstream patchsets. Afterall, you were the author of original /haswell/ and your input could have proved important in speeding the progress and yielding even better results to our clients. As you've given no technical points for denying LPT/WPT improvements and your statement disagrees with management's decision, message shall be discarded and ignored for the rest of the upstream process. Further discussion will be taken off this list. Mark, Takashi and others, I'm sorry for this inconvenience, such actions do not represent One Intel and Truth & Transparency which Intel is committed to stand by. Czarek