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From: Raymond Yau <superquad.vortex2@gmail.com>
To: ALSA Development Mailing List <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: wrong decibel data?
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:47:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikj8_3oYu4ERIGHVhlbFKCVQW4P6PCENqblLWgh@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <hvsj32$6cm$1@dough.gmane.org>

2010/6/23 Colin Guthrie <gmane@colin.guthr.ie>

> 'Twas brillig, and Raymond Yau at 23/06/10 02:15 did gyre and gimble:
> > why PA server still insist to open front device for capturing ?
>
> Couldn't tell you. Perhaps Lennart is unaware that it is considered
> invalid? I'll ask him.
>
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.devel/67912/focus=68248
> >
> > As Takashi had already mention that
> >
> > "I agree that the capture from "front" PCM isn't considered as valid.
> > The "front", "rear", "center_lfe" definitions are rather for
> multi-channel
> > playbacks. The capture on these channels aren't useful in most cases."
> >
> > you can perform an experiement
> >
> > pcm.test {
> >     type softvol
> >     slave.pcm "hw:0,0"
> >     control {
> >         name "PA Playback Volume"
> >         card 0
> >     }
> >
> > arecord -D test -f CD -d 10 -v test.wav
> >
> > you will find "PA Playback Volume" in playback screen of alsamixer
> >
> > I am not sure the softvol control created when PA open front device
> > for playback and capture is used for playback or capture
> >
> > BTW , PA still using "front" to open CTL device too
>
> You'll have to ask Lennart directly about that bit.
>

arecord -Dfront:0 -v -f cd | aplay -Dfront:0 -v -f cd

the softvol control was seem to used by arecord and aplay concurrently

Using front device for capture
1)  HDA, the problem is softvol plugin,
2)  emu10k1 , the problem is the hook controls in front playback device
which change the route of volume of the DSP hardware mixer
3)



>
> I can't speak for him with regards to the full setup of the mixer path
> probing stuff, so perhaps "front" should be edited out of this for
> paths. It would likely be a fairly trivial change to configuration files
> rather than any code changes.
>
> Col
>
>
Well , He had already hardcoded to use "hw:card_number" in dbverify.c , it
is only PA server still try to open mixer device "front"

The tooltip of gnome volume control in Fedora 13 clearly indiacte that 100%
is 0dB for intel8x0 which use ac97 codec  when you put the cursor on top of
the speaker icon at the system bar

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=618551

according to gnome-media-developer  Bastien Nocera

In any case, we only display what PulseAudio tells us, so you should poke the
PulseAudio devs about this.

This is the code in question:
gdouble
gvc_mixer_stream_get_decibel (GvcMixerStream *stream)
{
        g_return_val_if_fail (GVC_IS_MIXER_STREAM (stream), 0);

        return pa_sw_volume_to_dB(
                        (pa_volume_t)
gvc_channel_map_get_volume(stream->priv->channel_map)[VOLUME]);
}



if you don't have any ac97 sound card , you can user virtualbox which has an
emulated intel8x0 sound card

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-28  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-02 18:21 wrong decibel data? Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-02 20:25 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-03 10:09   ` Colin Guthrie
2010-04-03 10:48     ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-05  0:15       ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-05  8:29       ` Stereo Support in APLAY Reddy, MR Swami
2010-04-08  6:47         ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-04-04  0:09     ` wrong decibel data? Raymond Yau
2010-04-04  1:31     ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-06  0:07     ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-08  1:35     ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-16 13:48     ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-17  9:31       ` Colin Guthrie
2010-04-21  2:32         ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-21  8:06           ` Colin Guthrie
2010-04-22  1:16             ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-27 13:30               ` Colin Guthrie
2010-05-27 13:48                 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-27 14:43                   ` Colin Guthrie
2010-05-27 17:21                     ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-06  0:12                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-07  9:03                         ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-08  0:47                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-08 15:30                             ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-10  3:16                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-10 16:11                                 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-13 13:53                                   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-06-14  0:25                                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14  8:33                                       ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14  8:38                                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14  8:45                                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14 10:17                                           ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 18:38                                           ` Lennart Poettering
2010-06-14  8:56                                         ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-06-14  9:54                                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14 10:07                                             ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-06-15  6:57                                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14 18:46                                             ` Lennart Poettering
2010-06-14 10:22                                           ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 10:46                                             ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-06-14 11:03                                               ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 11:29                                               ` Alan Horstmann
2010-06-14 12:36                                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14 14:17                                                 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 15:27                                                   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-06-14 15:44                                                     ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 16:09                                                     ` Mark Brown
2010-06-15  0:11                                                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-22  2:31                                                   ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-22  9:15                                                     ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-22 15:29                                                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-22 17:05                                                         ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-23  1:15                                                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-23  9:12                                                             ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-28  1:47                                                               ` Raymond Yau [this message]
2010-06-28  8:18                                                                 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-07-01 15:03                                                                   ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-14 18:54                                               ` Lennart Poettering
2010-06-14 18:49                                             ` Lennart Poettering
2010-06-14 23:43                                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-15 16:10                                                 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-06-14 18:41                                           ` Lennart Poettering
2010-06-08  4:01                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-08 15:40                             ` Colin Guthrie
2010-05-28  2:37                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-28  2:04                   ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-06  1:46 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-06  8:01   ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-07  0:34     ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-07  8:17       ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-07 12:17         ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-07 23:38           ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-08  2:05     ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-08 12:42       ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-08 23:11         ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09  7:30           ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-09 11:37             ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09 11:40             ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09 12:27               ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-06-24  9:53                 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09 13:49             ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09 13:59               ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-09 18:35                 ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-10  0:27                   ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-10  9:27                   ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-10  9:41                     ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-10 23:32                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-11  0:02                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-11  9:00                         ` Nicolo' Chieffo
2010-04-15  3:38                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-14  1:39                 ` Raymond Yau
     [not found]               ` <4BBF5F81.1010205@yellowcouch.org>
2010-04-09 23:32                 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-10  6:56                   ` Werner Van Belle
2010-04-10  7:23                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-10  4:25                 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-10  6:59                   ` Werner Van Belle
2010-04-10  0:11             ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-17  0:40             ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09  0:49         ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-09  1:35         ` Raymond Yau

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