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From: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
To: "M. Armsby" <m.armsby@gmx.de>
Cc: ALSA mail List <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: Motu 896Mk3Hybrid dump
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 13:32:14 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+R3Trgr8gM7A1KC@workstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <-9ql34ax08baa-u8njs4ojzl8k9qj8kusba8u-119dm2-3md8uqbmil7lckunia-ijl9m4n5xuto-76roex-ucqm5h-1c3kdf-5ahx5l1oy29o-no4drk-5wjqfzqre34j-p7he4b9rr95u-3lcrfi-9o14b8.1675872031471@email.android.com>

Hi,

On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 05:00:31PM +0100, M. Armsby wrote:
> > I made a short video demonstrating this.
> >
> > https://www.transfernow.net/dl/20230206jG0fet84/OFRBRajr
> Thanks for your taking and uploading the video.
> The below figure illustrates your cases:
>
> ++======================++    +-------+    ++===============++
> ||       Traveler       ||    | frame |    ||  Application  ||
> ||                      ||    |       |    ||               ||
> || headphone output 1/2 || <- |  0/1  | <- ||  Output 1/2   ||
> || analog output 1/2    || <- |  2/3  | <- ||  Output 3/4   ||
> || analog output 3/4    || <- |  4/5  | <- ||  Output 5/6   ||
> || analog output 5/6    || <- |  6/7  | <- ||  Output 7/8   ||
> || analog output 7/8    || <- |  8/9  | <- ||  Output 9/10  ||
> || AES/EBU (XLR) 1/2    || <- | 10/11 | <- ||  Output 11/12 ||
> || S/PDIF (opt) 1/2     || <- | 12/13 | <- ||  Output 13/14 ||
> ++======================++    +-------+    ++===============++
>
> I note that the effective source of headphone output is selectable
> between the above 7 pairs. Additionally, when enabling ADAT optical
> output, 8 channels are newly added to the frame thus 22 channels are
> available in a view of application.
> Well, inconveniently to you, the above mapping is expected. ALSA
> firewire-motu driver passes no information to the application about
> what the channel of frame is assigned to, due to technical reason of
> ALSA interface to user space application. As a result, the
> application just enumerates audio sample in its order.
>
> ________
>
> I can understand your description but disagree that just because
> it's Linux, all Motu users must deal with false output allocation.
> The first pair should be 1+2 not headphones.
>
> Is it not possible to find a remedy instead.
>
> The Windows driver shows headphones much later in the output
> numbering.

Indeed, it is inconvenient in the view of user. But let us focus on how
to support MOTU 896 mk3 hybrid at present, since the issue includes many
technical topics; each application, drivers in kernel, libraries, and
interface between them.

> See Pictures taken from Reaper in Windows 10

Would I ask you to avoid attaching pictures to open mailing list? The
message with many files is easily judged as spam message.


Regards

Takashi Sakamoto

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-09  4:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2023-01-30 13:19 ` Firewire Phase24 Motu help Takashi Sakamoto
2023-02-05 11:54   ` Motu 896Mk3Hybrid dump Martin Armsby on GMX
2023-02-06  1:26     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2023-02-06 17:30       ` M. Armsby
2023-02-07 12:27         ` Motu " Takashi Sakamoto
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2023-02-09  4:32             ` Takashi Sakamoto [this message]
2023-02-09 12:19               ` M. Armsby
2023-02-10  3:01                 ` Motu " Takashi Sakamoto

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