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From: "Ivica Bukvic" <ico@fuse.net>
To: 'Dan Hollis' <goemon@anime.net>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, alsa-user@alsa-project.org
Subject: RE: question regarding latest CS4205 laptop    soundcard driver
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:00:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a5hsv1$fpm$1@quimby2.netfonds.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202261906010.21337-100000@sasami.anime.net>

> > *There is esd, which is outdated and simply crappy.
> > *There is artsd, which is better, but not good enough, and again,
the
> > app must be made to be aware of it in order to utilize it.
> > *There is JACK project which has a huge potential but none of its
> > effects are again universal, nor backwards-compatible with already
> > released software.
> > *There is Gstreamer, but I do not honestly know enough about it.
> 
> Then make them better.

While I would like to thank you for your prompt response, I want to
point out that I find your above statement rather discouraging. Not
everyone is a low-level programmer, and not everyone should be one. Yet,
with such statement you are implying exactly that: "for one to use Linux
for multimedia, one has to be prepared to be able to do low-level coding
in an environment that inherently suffers from lack of documentation."

Although I've provided my humble coding contributions to the Linux
community, I am by no means an adept programmer who is capable of
dealing with the low-level stuff such as this (needless to say I have no
clue where to start since documentation is less than sparse). Besides, I
would love to help any of these projects to reach their "ripeness," but
find most of them to be focused on things that need less urgent
attention (i.e. JACK, as I understand it, focuses on inter-app audio
communication in a highly efficient manner, requiring app-side
implementation for any kind of dsp resource sharing, thus meaning there
is currently no planned backwards-compatibility, unless the older apps
are adapted to its architecture, which in itself is a rather far-fetched
assumption that the other application developers will be willing to
adapt their apps to this yet-and-if-to-be-established-standard).

Majority of the older, but still maintained apps, access the /dev/dsp
resources in an OSS fashion. Since my understanding is that Alsa is
already capable of fooling these through its OSS emulation (that, if I
am not mistaken, already transparently exists between the actual dsp
resource and the app), wouldn't it be a rather easy step to make it also
be capable of accepting multiple queries and down-mixing them before
sending them to the actual dsp?

Finally, why not merge the efforts of all these different
groups/projects into one concise solution, rather than a dozen
half-working ones?

Sincerely,

Ico



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       reply	other threads:[~2002-02-27  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202261906010.21337-100000@sasami.anime.net>
2002-02-27  6:00 ` Ivica Bukvic [this message]
     [not found] <200202271510.KAA11571@renoir.op.net>
2002-02-27 19:11 ` question regarding latest CS4205 laptop soundcard driver Ivica Bukvic
2002-02-28  3:09   ` Paul Davis
2002-02-28  5:32     ` Ivica Bukvic
2002-02-28 14:12   ` Steve Harris
2002-02-27  9:02 Patrick Shirkey
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-27  8:48 Patrick Shirkey
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202261636480.19581-100000@sasami.anime.net>
2002-02-27  2:26 ` Ivica Bukvic
     [not found] ` <000001c1bf36$280ec3c0$ac1f830a@ico>
2002-02-27  3:09   ` Dan Hollis
2002-02-27  3:31   ` Andy Wingo
2002-02-27 15:10   ` Paul Davis
     [not found] <20020226072437.47ED22756@sitemail.everyone.net>
2002-02-26 22:49 ` Ivica Bukvic
2002-02-27  0:41   ` Dan Hollis
2002-02-26  0:11 Ivica Bukvic
2002-02-26 10:59 ` Steve Harris

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