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From: Eldad Zack <eldad@fogrefinery.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Nikolay Martynov <mar.kolya@gmail.com>,
	Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Daniel Mack <zonque@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 14/15] ALSA: usb-audio: always wait in start_endpoints
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:25:17 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1310082112490.1364@anubis> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hbo30jl9c.wl%tiwai@suse.de>



On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Mon, 7 Oct 2013 21:26:57 +0200 (CEST),
> Eldad Zack wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 7 Oct 2013, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > 
> > > At Sun,  6 Oct 2013 22:31:19 +0200,
> > > Eldad Zack wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Start the endpoints at prepare also for capture endpoints,
> > > > since it might be needed to wait for the URBs to be unlinked.
> > > > 
> > > > If an implicit feedback source endpoint stops being used by its
> > > > sink endpoint, but immediately used as a data endpoint, usb_submit_urb
> > > > will return -EBUSY.
> > > > 
> > > > Merge two trigger cases since they are now the same.
> > > This change worries me about the timing.  This change means that the
> > > capture stream isn't started at the moment the trigger callback is
> > > called but at the next urb handling.  It means a possible regression
> > > in the case of realtime usage.
> > 
> > I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean it might cause the delay between 
> > capture and playback to vary at each startup?
> 
> No, I mean that the actual begin of the recording will be delayed in
> comparison with the driver without your patch.  The delay can't be
> avoided in this style.

Ah. I see what you mean.

> > > Is there any reason to do this except for clean up?  IOW, does this
> > > fix any problem by itself?
> > 
> > Yes, I only became aware of it since I bumped into it with my test tool.
> > Attached here - I hope the mailing list accepts attachments.
> 
> I understand that this will be required for the implicit feedback
> case.  But why applying this to *all* other cases, too, although we
> know that this may regress slightly with respect to the latency?
> This is my biggest concern.

Yes, I understand now. I'll of course change that along with all the 
rest and post a new set.
Thanks!

Cheers,
Eldad

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-08 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-06 20:31 [PATCH v4 00/15] ALSA: usb-audio: fix playback/capture concurrent usage Eldad Zack
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] ALSA: usb-audio: remove unused parameter from sync_ep_set_params Eldad Zack
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] ALSA: usb-audio: remove deactivate_endpoints() Eldad Zack
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] ALSA: usb-audio: prevent NULL dereference on stop trigger Eldad Zack
2013-10-07  8:57   ` Takashi Iwai
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] ALSA: usb-audio: don't deactivate URBs on in-use EP Eldad Zack
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] ALSA: usb-audio: void return type of snd_usb_endpoint_deactivate() Eldad Zack
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] ALSA: usb-audio: clear SUBSTREAM_FLAG_SYNC_EP_STARTED on error Eldad Zack
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] ALSA: usb-audio: correct ep use_count semantics (add set_param flag) Eldad Zack
2013-10-07  9:21   ` Takashi Iwai
2013-10-07 19:31     ` Eldad Zack
2013-10-08  7:01       ` Takashi Iwai
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] ALSA: usb-audio: rename alt_idx to altsetting Eldad Zack
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] ALSA: usb-audio: conditional interface altsetting Eldad Zack
2013-10-07 10:34   ` Takashi Iwai
2013-10-07 18:00     ` Eldad Zack
2013-10-07 18:23       ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-10-07 19:31         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] ALSA: usb-audio: conditional concurrent usage of endpoint Eldad Zack
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] ALSA: usb-audio: remove altset_idx from snd_usb_substream Eldad Zack
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] ALSA: usb-audio: remove unused endpoint flag EP_FLAG_ACTIVATED Eldad Zack
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] ALSA: usb-audio: clear sync subs hw_params Eldad Zack
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] ALSA: usb-audio: always wait in start_endpoints Eldad Zack
2013-10-07  9:26   ` Takashi Iwai
2013-10-07 19:26     ` Eldad Zack
2013-10-08  7:05       ` Takashi Iwai
2013-10-08 19:25         ` Eldad Zack [this message]
2013-10-06 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] ALSA: usb-audio: improve logging messages Eldad Zack
2013-10-07  9:23   ` Takashi Iwai
2013-10-07  9:30 ` [PATCH v4 00/15] ALSA: usb-audio: fix playback/capture concurrent usage Takashi Iwai
2013-10-07 17:20   ` Eldad Zack
2013-10-28 17:45 ` Nikolay Martynov

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