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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Bard Liao <bardliao@realtek.com>,
	Oder Chiou <oder_chiou@realtek.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Set card long_name based on quirks
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 16:21:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea5529dc-9af7-2195-3419-10ab3ad7c9e2@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86f6bb1e-21af-a2e4-76c4-c0446c3b32e8@redhat.com>



On 05/10/2018 01:01 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 10-05-18 19:46, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>> On 5/10/18 10:48 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 10-05-18 17:00, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>>>> On 5/10/18 5:27 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08-05-18 20:35, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/8/18 10:36 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>>>>> Many X86 devices using a BYT SoC + RT5640 codec are cheap 
>>>>>>> devices with
>>>>>>> generic DMI strings, causing snd_soc_set_dmi_name() to fail to 
>>>>>>> set a
>>>>>>> long_name, making it impossible for userspace to have a correct UCM
>>>>>>> profile which only uses inputs / outputs which are actually 
>>>>>>> hooked up
>>>>>>> on the device.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our quirks already specify which input the internal mic is 
>>>>>>> connected to
>>>>>>> and if a single (mono) speaker is used or if the device has stereo
>>>>>>> speakers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This commit sets a long_name based on the quirks so that 
>>>>>>> userspace can
>>>>>>> have UCM profiles doing the right thing based on the long_name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't this going to be complicated to manage for UCM? Just with 
>>>>>> this patch alone, you'd need 8 UCM files to cover all the 
>>>>>> combinations. 16 if you add the 'sof-' prefix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> seems like UCM should become more 'dynamic' and get quirk 
>>>>>> information somehow (sysfs?) to enable/disable endpoints rather 
>>>>>> than rely on name encoding to select the right profile?
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree that this is not ideal, but this is an improvement from the
>>>>> current state where we would need 1 UCM profile per board
>>>>> (assuming valid DMI data and thus a proper long-name being set),
>>>>> 6 profiles (dmic2 is not used anywhere sofar) is a whole lot easier
>>>>> to manage then 1 profile per board. So as said I believe this is
>>>>> a step in the right direction.
>>>>>
>>>>> And looking at the foreseeable future I simply don't see any of us
>>>>> having the time to implement an ideal solution for this. I would
>>>>> really like for end users to be able to run the latest upstream
>>>>> kernel + alsa-lib and have things just work, before this hardware
>>>>> becomes obsolete. I know that no-one having time to work on reworking
>>>>> UCM to make it more dynamic is not the best of arguments but it
>>>>> is something to take into consideration.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thinking more about this on the alsa-lib / UCM profile side we
>>>>> could have something like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> /usr/share/alsa/ucm/bytcr-rt5640-mono-spk-in1-mic/bytcr-rt5640-mono-spk-in1-mic.conf: 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SectionUseCase."HiFi" {
>>>>>          File "../bytcr-rt5640/Generic.conf"
>>>>>      File "../bytcr-rt5640/MonoSpeaker.conf"
>>>>>      File "../bytcr-rt5640/In1Mic.conf"
>>>>>          Comment "Play HiFi quality Music"
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> SectionDefaults [
>>>>>          cdev "hw:bytcrrt5640"
>>>>> ]
>>>>>
>>>>> The only problem I can see with that is that the "ConflictingDevice"
>>>>> sections for the various inputs / outputs then would refer to not
>>>>> present SectionDevice sections. I have not tested this suggestion 
>>>>> yet,
>>>>> but I'm willing to write an alsa-lib patch to ignore non present
>>>>> ConflictingDevice references, to make my suggestion work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think doing things this way, thus avoiding the need to copy and
>>>>> paste a whole lot of UCM code for the 6 profiles it will not be
>>>>> a problem to maintain 6 profiles, as we're really just maintaining
>>>>> 6 config snippets such as the above example and only one complete
>>>>> profile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would the solution I outlined above be acceptable to you?
>>>>
>>>> The includes and disabling conflicting devices that aren't present 
>>>> make sense. I have another issue though: for SOF integration I 
>>>> already prepared a set of files, which are mostly identical to the 
>>>> regular ones except that the platform-side mixer controls are 
>>>> removed (or different) and the name of the card/device is different 
>>>> (sof- prefix). See on github.
>>>
>>> Hmm, it might make sense to split the includes in platform and codec 
>>> includes, so
>>> to pick my example again we would get:
>>>
>>> /usr/share/alsa/ucm/bytcr-rt5640-mono-spk-in1-mic/bytcr-rt5640-mono-spk-in1-mic.conf: 
>>>
>>>
>>> SectionUseCase."HiFi" {
>>>      SectionVerb {
>>>           EnableSequence [
>>>               cdev "hw:bytcrrt5640"
>>>
>>>               File "../bytcr-rt5640/EnableSeq.conf" # This contains 
>>> the platform mixer settings
>>>               File "../rt5640/EnableSeq.conf"
>>>           ]
>>>
>>>           DisableSequence [
>>>           ]
>>>
>>>           Value {
>>>               PlaybackPCM "hw:bytcrrt5640"
>>>               CapturePCM "hw:bytcrrt5640"
>>>           }
>>>        }
>>>
>>>        File "../rt5640/Headset.conf"
>>>        File "../rt5640/MonoSpeaker.conf"
>>>        File "../rt5640/In1Mic.conf"
>>>        Comment "Play HiFi quality Music"
>>> }
>>>
>>> SectionDefaults [
>>>        cdev "hw:bytcrrt5640"
>>> ]
>>>
>>> And then for sof you would just need to
>>> offer a sof-rt5640/EnableSeq.conf, or
>>> maybe even leave it out completely.
>>>
>>> And we might also be able to merge the platform
>>> enable sequences into a generic:
>>>
>>> bytcr/EnableSeq.conf
>>>
>>> I think that will at least fly for bytcr-rt5640 and
>>> butcr-rt5651, leading us being able to remove more
>>> duplicated UCM config.
>>>
>>> How does this sound?
>>
>> splitting platform and codec sides is a good idea (and something that 
>> was done by removing all platform mixer settings from the HiFi files)
>>
>> the problem remains that we have all these cdev strings that are 
>> hard-codec with a card name. Same when the match happens based on a 
>> DMI string, how would I know which of the platform settings to apply 
>> without querying what the platform driver is?
>
> Well the DMI string would uniquely identify a certain model device,
> when we write the UCM file we should know what the platform + codec
> for that device is and we can simply hardcode them, like in
> my example above.
>
> But maybe I'm misunderstanding you?

For the same DMI device, you could either enable the existing intel/sst 
or SOF drivers. How would we handle UCM configs then? The DMI name would 
need to be augmented with a prefix, or we use *something* to add the 
references to SOF in the platform include and ALSA device string.

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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-08 15:35 [PATCH 00/19] ASoC: rt5640: Add jack-detect and button-press support Hans de Goede
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 01/19] ASoC: rt5640: Remove is_sys_clk_from_pll, it has ordering issues Hans de Goede
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 02/19] ASoC: rt5640: Add devicetree-bindings for dmic, jack-detect Hans de Goede
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 03/19] ASoC: rt5640: Remove unused rt5640_platform_data Hans de Goede
2018-05-11  2:16   ` Mark Brown
2018-05-11  2:52   ` Applied "ASoC: rt5640: Remove unused rt5640_platform_data" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 04/19] ASoC: rt5640: Move checking of device-properties to component probe callback Hans de Goede
2018-05-11  2:51   ` Applied "ASoC: rt5640: Move checking of device-properties to component probe callback" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 05/19] ASoC: rt5640: Allow specifying dmic data pins through device-properties Hans de Goede
2018-05-11  2:51   ` Applied "ASoC: rt5640: Allow specifying dmic data pins through device-properties" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 06/19] ASoC: rt5640: Add jack-detect support Hans de Goede
2018-05-11  2:50   ` Applied "ASoC: rt5640: Add jack-detect support" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 07/19] ASoC: rt5640: Add button press support Hans de Goede
2018-05-11  2:50   ` Applied "ASoC: rt5640: Add button press support" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 08/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Configure PLL1 before using it Hans de Goede
2018-05-11  2:48   ` Applied "ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Configure PLL1 before using it" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 09/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Use device-property for differential mics Hans de Goede
2018-05-11  2:48   ` Applied "ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Use device-property for differential mics" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 10/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Use device properties for setting up dmic Hans de Goede
2018-05-11  2:25   ` Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 11/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Fix Dell Venue 8 5830 Pro quirk Hans de Goede
2018-05-17 16:39   ` Applied "ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Fix Dell Venue 8 5830 Pro quirk" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 12/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Enable jack detection Hans de Goede
2018-05-17 16:39   ` Applied "ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Enable jack detection" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 13/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Change BYTCR default input to IN3 Hans de Goede
2018-05-17 16:39   ` Applied "ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Change BYTCR default input to IN3" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCH 14/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Unify BYTCR input defaults Hans de Goede
2018-05-17 16:39   ` Applied "ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Unify BYTCR input defaults" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:36 ` [PATCH 15/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Add default jack-detect settings Hans de Goede
2018-05-17 16:39   ` Applied "ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Add default jack-detect settings" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:36 ` [PATCH 16/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Sort DMI quirk list alphabetically Hans de Goede
2018-05-17 16:39   ` Applied "ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Sort DMI quirk list alphabetically" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:36 ` [PATCH 17/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Use dmi_first_match() for DMI quirk handling Hans de Goede
2018-05-17 16:38   ` Applied "ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Use dmi_first_match() for DMI quirk handling" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 15:36 ` [PATCH 18/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Add quirks for various devices Hans de Goede
2018-05-08 15:36 ` [PATCH 19/19] ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Set card long_name based on quirks Hans de Goede
2018-05-08 18:35   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-05-10 10:27     ` Hans de Goede
2018-05-10 15:00       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-05-10 15:48         ` Hans de Goede
2018-05-10 17:46           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-05-10 18:01             ` Hans de Goede
2018-05-12 21:21               ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2018-05-13  7:11                 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-05-13  7:28                   ` Hans de Goede
2018-05-18 15:55           ` Hans de Goede
2018-05-18 16:21             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-05-17 16:38   ` Applied "ASoC: Intel: bytcr_rt5640: Set card long_name based on quirks" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2018-05-08 18:42 ` [PATCH 00/19] ASoC: rt5640: Add jack-detect and button-press support Pierre-Louis Bossart

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