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From: Colin Guthrie <gmane@colin.guthr.ie>
To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: What does snd_pcm_delay() actually return?
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:44:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <g2tq3q$969$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48524882.6050606@superbug.co.uk>

James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> - Add some new API functions,
>>>     
>> I would prefer to extend the current API than to change meaning of hw_ptr 
>> to handle extra latencies.
>>
>>   
> I would prefer the definition of snd_pcm_delay() to be:
> Before the next sample is written to the buffer, snd_pcm_delay() returns 
> the expect time delay, in frames, indicating the time the next sample 
> will reach the speakers.
> This is what snd_pcm_delay() was introduced into the ALSA api for. I 
> remember, because it was added as a result of me requesting it.
> 
> 
> Then implement a totally different api call to help with under run timings.

Big +1

You also have to think of the use cases currently out there.

* World + Dog uses it as James (and Lennart) states.
* Wine uses it sans latency.

So lots of apps having to change to cope verses one (known) app 
changing. I think even the wine folk would agree this is more sensible!

Also by changing the definition, would you not have to change the 
usb-audio driver works? In general I'd say it's a whole lot less work to 
leave snd_pcm_delay() as it is, update the docs and add a new api 
function for under run stuff.

Col

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-13 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-09 19:02 What does snd_pcm_delay() actually return? Lennart Poettering
2008-06-10 14:01 ` RafałMużyło
2008-06-10 14:36 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-06-11 16:56 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-11 20:24   ` Colin Guthrie
2008-06-11 21:40     ` Tomas Carnecky
2008-06-12 10:25     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-12 11:51       ` Colin Guthrie
2008-06-12 12:08         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-12 21:00           ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13  6:22             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-12 20:52   ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13  6:13     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 13:51       ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 13:55         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 14:29           ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13  6:59     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13  8:14       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 10:14         ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-06-13 12:44           ` Colin Guthrie [this message]
2008-06-13 13:06             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 14:48               ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 15:02                 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 15:42                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-17  0:53                     ` Eliot Blennerhassett
2008-06-13 14:38           ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 15:27         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 15:44           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 15:59             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 16:20               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 16:38                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 16:48                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 19:55                 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-06-16 12:07                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-19 17:59                     ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 19:59                 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-06-13 14:25       ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 15:55         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 16:11           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 16:26             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 16:47               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 16:52                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 17:37                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 18:23                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 18:48                     ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 18:43                 ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 18:29               ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 18:46                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 19:01                   ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 19:05                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 18:22           ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 18:32             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-14  9:51             ` James Courtier-Dutton

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