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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: David Henningsson <coding@diwic.se>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sound: rawmidi: Add framing mode
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:44:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5h1rc1lva7.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2ca71809-9872-bfee-c19d-76b6ce143212@diwic.se>

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:29:04 +0100,
David Henningsson wrote:
> 
> > But actually I'd like to see some measurement how much we can improve
> > the timestamp accuracy by shifting the post office.  This may show
> > interesting numbers.
> 
> Sorry, I don't know the idiom "shifting the post office" and neither
> does the urban dictionary, so I have no idea what this means. :-)

It was just joking; you basically moved the place to stamp the
incoming data from one place (at the delivery center of a sequencer
event) to another earlier place (at the irq handler).

The question is: how much time difference have you measured by this
move?

> > Also, one thing to be more considered is the support for MIDI v2 in
> > future.  I haven't seen any development so far (and no device
> > available around), so I cannot comment on this much more, but it'd be
> > worth to take a quick look before defining the solid API/ABI.
> 
> I had a quick look at MIDI 2.0. It offers something called "Jitter
> reduction timestamps". After some searching I found that its
> resolution is 16 bit, and in units of 1/31250 seconds [1]. So the
> suggested timestamp format of secs + nsecs would suit us well for that
> case, I believe. When implemented, MIDI 2.0 jitter reduction
> timestamps would be another clock ID on top of the existing frame
> format (or a new frame format, if we prefer).
> 
> A midi 2.0 UMP (Universal Midi Packet) seems to be 4, 8, 12 or 16
> bytes, excluding the timestamp. If we want to fit that format with the
> existing patch, we could increase the frame to 32 bytes so we can fit
> more data per packet. Do you think we should do that? Otherwise I
> think Patch v3 is ready for merging.

Let's evaluate a bit what would be the best fit.  I see no big reason
to rush the merge right now.


thanks,

Takashi

> 
> // David
> 
> [1] https://imitone.com/discover-midi/
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-26 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-24  5:42 [PATCH v2] sound: rawmidi: Add framing mode David Henningsson
2021-03-24 10:03 ` Takashi Iwai
2021-03-24 11:18   ` David Henningsson
2021-03-24 13:29     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2021-03-24 12:44 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2021-03-24 15:57   ` David Henningsson
2021-03-26  4:46     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2021-03-26  7:55       ` Takashi Iwai
2021-03-26 16:29         ` David Henningsson
2021-03-26 16:44           ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2021-03-27  1:51             ` Takashi Sakamoto
2021-03-28  6:39             ` David Henningsson
2021-03-28  7:40               ` Takashi Iwai
2021-03-30 19:35                 ` David Henningsson
2021-03-31  7:40                   ` Takashi Iwai
2021-04-05 12:13                     ` David Henningsson
2021-04-06 12:01                       ` Takashi Iwai
2021-04-10 11:41                         ` David Henningsson
2021-04-12 16:03                           ` Takashi Iwai
2021-03-27  3:44           ` Takashi Sakamoto
2021-03-27  3:10         ` Takashi Sakamoto

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