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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: "Yang, Libin" <libin.yang@intel.com>
Cc: ALSA Development Mailing List <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	"airlied@linux.ie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"Lin, Mengdong" <mengdong.lin@intel.com>,
	"Girdwood, Liam R" <liam.r.girdwood@intel.com>,
	Raymond Yau <superquad.vortex2@gmail.com>,
	"tanuk@iki.fi" <tanuk@iki.fi>,
	David Henningsson <david.henningsson@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: DP1.2 MST audio support discussion
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:00:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hh9lrjih4.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <96A12704CE18D347B625EE2D4A099D1974F6DD@SHSMSX103.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:51:30 +0200,
Yang, Libin wrote:
> 
> Hi Takashi,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai@suse.de]
> > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:38 PM
> > To: Raymond Yau
> > Cc: Yang, Libin; ALSA Development Mailing List; airlied@linux.ie; Lin,
> > Mengdong; Girdwood, Liam R; tanuk@iki.fi; David Henningsson
> > Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] DP1.2 MST audio support discussion
> > 
> > On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 02:32:50 +0200,
> > Raymond Yau wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do it mean that only one DP MST port and no HDMI port on the
> > same
> > > graphic
> > > > > card ?
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > >
> > > If there is only one HDMI and one Display Port, this mean that there
> > are
> > > two pin complexes
> > 
> > Yes, and the mapping doesn't change in this case as before.
> > 
> > > How about the name of jack detection kctl of three Display Port
> > monitors
> > > which are created on the same pin complex but different dev_index ?
> > 
> > It's one of the models we've considered.  Basically the number of
> > devices can be up to 64 (or such) per pin.  For Intel case, due to the
> > limitation of converters, it's up to 3.  For other GPUs that may drive
> > more simultaneous outputs, the number increases in square.  If a GPU
> > may handle 16 outputs, it'll be 256 entries.
> > 
> > Although the 256 entries are certainly manageable as kctl, whether
> > this is the best representation for user-space is a question.
> 
> This is what I concern. Each device entry should have one tag
> for unsol event. This means each device entry will create a jack?

Yes, and essentially each entry corresponds to a PCM, so we'll end up
with 256 PCM (sub)streams :)  This doesn't scale.

So, thinking of this issue again, I'm convinced now that static PCM
entries with extra dynamic PCM slots as David suggested would work
more safely.  The number of dynamic PCMs can be either a fixed number
per driver type, a constant, or variable via module option.


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-16  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-13  6:25 DP1.2 MST audio support discussion Yang, Libin
2015-10-13  6:47 ` David Henningsson
2015-10-13  7:34   ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-13  9:20     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-13 12:31       ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-13 14:03         ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-13 14:12           ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-13 16:20             ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-14  2:03               ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-13 23:52       ` Raymond Yau
2015-10-14  2:15         ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-14  6:44         ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-16  0:32           ` Raymond Yau
2015-10-16  6:38             ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-16  8:51               ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-16  9:00                 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2015-10-16 11:55                   ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-19  5:16               ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-22  1:31             ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-22  6:51               ` David Henningsson
2015-10-22  6:56                 ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-22  7:27                   ` David Henningsson
2015-10-22  7:40                     ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-22  8:52                       ` David Henningsson
2015-10-22 11:21                         ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-22 17:42                         ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-23  5:30                         ` Lin, Mengdong
2015-10-23  5:53                           ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-23  8:35                             ` Lin, Mengdong
2015-10-23  8:44                               ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-23 10:15                                 ` Lin, Mengdong
2015-11-13  7:27                             ` Raymond Yau
2015-10-23 10:55                           ` David Henningsson
2015-10-23 12:35                             ` Lin, Mengdong
2015-10-27  8:45                               ` Yang, Libin
2015-10-30 11:27                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-11-01  8:53                                   ` Raymond Yau
2015-11-02  7:54                                     ` Yang, Libin
2015-11-02  7:30                                   ` Yang, Libin
2015-11-02  7:46                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-11-02  7:55                                     ` David Henningsson
2015-11-04 14:17                                       ` Yang, Libin
2015-11-04 15:04                                         ` Jani Nikula
2015-11-05  9:07                                         ` David Henningsson
2015-11-05  9:39                                           ` Raymond Yau
2015-11-10  6:46                                           ` Yang, Libin
2015-11-10  7:45                                             ` David Henningsson
2015-11-11  2:04                                               ` Yang, Libin
2015-11-11  7:58                                                 ` Yang, Libin
2015-11-11  8:05                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-11-11  8:11                                                     ` Yang, Libin
2015-11-11  8:26                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2015-11-11  8:33                                                         ` Yang, Libin
2015-11-11  8:52                                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-23  9:40                 ` Raymond Yau
2015-10-23 13:08                   ` Lin, Mengdong
2015-10-16  1:11 ` Yang, Libin

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