From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Takashi Iwai Subject: Re: DP1.2 MST audio support discussion Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:42:33 +0200 Message-ID: References: <96A12704CE18D347B625EE2D4A099D1974C250@SHSMSX103.ccr.corp.intel.com> <561CA911.7070405@canonical.com> <96A12704CE18D347B625EE2D4A099D1974C304@SHSMSX103.ccr.corp.intel.com> <96A12704CE18D347B625EE2D4A099D1975281F@SHSMSX103.ccr.corp.intel.com> <56288783.1080503@canonical.com> <96A12704CE18D347B625EE2D4A099D19753A2D@SHSMSX103.ccr.corp.intel.com> <56288FF7.9030400@canonical.com> <96A12704CE18D347B625EE2D4A099D19753A91@SHSMSX103.ccr.corp.intel.com> <5628A3EB.8050306@canonical.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mx2.suse.de (mx2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA30260542 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:42:36 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <5628A3EB.8050306@canonical.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org To: David Henningsson Cc: "Yang, Libin" , ALSA Development Mailing List , "airlied@linux.ie" , "Lin, Mengdong" , "Girdwood, Liam R" , Raymond Yau , "tanuk@iki.fi" List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 10:52:59 +0200, David Henningsson wrote: > > > > On 2015-10-22 09:40, Yang, Libin wrote: > > > >>>>>> From: Raymond Yau [mailto:superquad.vortex2@gmail.com] > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:33 AM > >>>>>> To: Takashi Iwai > >>>>>> Cc: airlied@linux.ie; tanuk@iki.fi; David Henningsson; Yang, Libin; > >>>> Lin, > >>>>>> Mengdong; Girdwood, Liam R; ALSA Development Mailing List > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] DP1.2 MST audio support discussion > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Do it mean that only one DP MST port and no HDMI port on > >> the > >>>>>> same graphic > >>>>>>>> card ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> No. > >>>>>> If there is only one HDMI and one Display Port, this mean that > >> there > >>>>>> are two pin complexes > >>>>>> How about the name of jack detection kctl of three Display Port > >>>>>> monitors which are created on the same pin complex but > >> different > >>>>>> dev_index ? > >>>>> > >>>>> For the jack name, what do you think if we change to > >>>>> "HDMI/DP, pin=n, dev=m" format? Will it impact on pulseaudio? > >>>> > >>>> Yes, it will impact PulseAudio. It will require changes to files in > >>>> > >>>> > >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/tree/src/modules/ > >>>> alsa/mixer/paths > >>> > >>> So does this mean we should not change the name "HDMI/DP,pcm=3 > >> Jack" > >>> to "HDMI/DP,pin=n, dev=m Jack", otherwise the old PA will not work > >> with > >>> the new driver? > >> > >> Yes. And I don't understand why you need to do it, either - if you have > >> three display port monitors on one pin, then they will all get different > >> PCMs (8, 9 and 10), and they will signal their Jack status through > >> "HDMI/DP,pcm=8 Jack", "HDMI/DP,pcm=9 Jack" and > >> "HDMI/DP,pcm=10 Jack". > > > > OK, I see. Thanks. I will not change the jack kctl name. > > BTW, the PCM number will be the same as converter, which means > > it will be 3 on Intel platforms. > > I'll try to explain my suggestion (which I believe Takashi's buying too) > one more time then: > > First, when a monitor is plugged in, we need to dynamically assign this > monitor to five PCM devices. I believe this scheme will be best: > > For a monitor at pin nid 0x05, dev index 0, it will prefer PCM 3. > For a monitor at pin nid 0x06, dev index 0, it will prefer PCM 7. > For a monitor at pin nid 0x07, dev index 0, it will prefer PCM 8. > For a monitor at dev index 1 (any pin), it will prefer PCM 9. > For a monitor at dev index 2 (any pin), it will prefer PCM 10. > > For monitors at dev indices > 2 (can that happen?), or if the PCM is > already assigned to something else, try PCMs in this order: 9, 10, 3, 7, 8. > (Subject to discussion perhaps, I don't think the order matters too > much, because conflicts will be rare in practice.) > > The jack and ELD kctls - one per PCM device - will follow what monitor > the PCM is currently assigned to. (kctls belonging to a PCM device that > is unassigned will report presence_detect=0 and eld_valid=0.) > > Then, at playback open time, a free converter node will be dynamically > assigned to the PCM. If there are no free converter nodes, return -EBUSY. > > Now remains the case when an unassigned PCM is opened. This needs > additional thinking, but the more backwards compatibility we can keep > for this case, the better. But I'm not sure about how possible it is to > let streams "freewheel" in this new DSP MST world? Well, the only question is how PA reacts if we return -ENODEV or whatever for opening an unassigned PCM. I thought PA relies on the PCM open for probing streams at start? Takashi