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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Liam Girdwood <liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com>,
	"Koul, Vinod" <vinod.koul@intel.com>,
	"alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/4] ASoC: topology: Add topology UAPI header.
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:23:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hy4llmrnr.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150421150342.GJ22845@sirena.org.uk>

At Tue, 21 Apr 2015 16:03:42 +0100,
Mark Brown wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 01:43:47PM +0100, Liam Girdwood wrote:
> > On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 12:02 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > At Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:47:53 +0100,
> 
> > > > > Not got a massively strong opinion here but given that we have ABI
> > > > > versioning can we just skip the 128 bytes of reserved space in most of
> > > > > the structs?  Doesn't seem to be doing much except making the files
> > > > > bigger.
> 
> > > > We had a similar discussion in Nuremburg last week, the intention is to
> > > > keep the size of the structures constant so wont dont break older
> > > > kernels with newer userspace ABIs etc.
> 
> > > Maybe a question is whether the size is sensible.  But the argument
> > > here was "memory is cheap nowadays".
> 
> > Ok, we can reduce the size here. I think Vinod wanted at least 4 * 4
> > byte words (i.e. 16 bytes) minimum IIRC, what about 16 bytes ? That
> > would give us at least 4 new members for the future ?
> 
> That's sounding like an awfully small number if we're trying to be
> infititely future proof (obviously the default value for that is 640k!).
> We'd also need to go through and give *all* the structures padding.  How
> about just adding length fields instead with a rule that if the
> structure is bigger than you know about just ignore anything at the end?

In theory, having only "abi" field should be enough, as we can know
the size predefined for each ABI version.  But I agree that it'd be
friendlier for a parser if the header itself declares its size,
e.g. via a header_size field or embedding the size into some check
field like ioctl.


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-21 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-16 20:48 [RFC 1/4] ASoC: topology: Add topology UAPI header Liam Girdwood
2015-04-20 21:30 ` Mark Brown
2015-04-21  9:47   ` Liam Girdwood
2015-04-21 10:02     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-04-21 12:43       ` Liam Girdwood
2015-04-21 13:17         ` Takashi Iwai
2015-04-21 15:03         ` Mark Brown
2015-04-21 15:23           ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2015-04-21 16:35             ` Mark Brown
2015-04-21 16:46               ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-04-22 11:24                 ` Mark Brown
2015-04-22 11:30                   ` Liam Girdwood
2015-04-21 19:05               ` Takashi Iwai
2015-04-21 17:01 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-04-22 11:16   ` Liam Girdwood

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