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From: pl bossart <bossart.nospam@gmail.com>
To: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
Cc: General PulseAudio Discussion
	<pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] disabling ALSA period interrupts
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:44:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <w2s6160a5131004300644o3aedd30bvf0d13a7f9e758575@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BDABDDD.4050502@ladisch.de>

Hi Clemens,

>> When PulseAudio is used and all PCM is routed through PulseAudio
>> (Fedora, Meego, etc), the notion of ALSA periods isn't very useful.
>> So why not disable them entirely to reduce the number of wakeups? ...
>> There are probably some cases where you don't want this type of
>> behavior (broken hardware, legacy code with multiple-buffering,
>> disabled timer in PulseAudio),
>
> It's interesting that all ALSA applications except PA are "legacy".  :)

Ha. Nice slip. I didn't mean legacy was bad... It's perfectly ok to
use multiple buffers and interrupts in a variety of apps.

>> so I think it would make sense to request the disabling of interrupts
>> when hw_params are set, since this is also the time when period sizes
>> are set.
>
> Yes.  For compatibility with the existing ALSA API, this needs to be
> a flag that is not enabled by default.

Agreed. This shouldn't even be mandatory since this option might not
be possible in all platforms.

>> I am aware that some changes would be needed in pcm_lib.c, where all
>> the error checks are done.
>
> Plus all the API changes in the ALSA kernel framework, the ALSA kernel/
> userspace interface, and the alsa-lib interface.

I am not following this point. If you add a simple flag to an existing
interface, why would we need to change the kernel/userspace inferface?
This change should be possible in a backwards compatible manner as an
additional option provided to the application developer.
Cheers
-Pierre

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-30 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-29 22:38 [RFC] disabling ALSA period interrupts pl bossart
2010-04-29 23:18 ` Raymond Yau
     [not found]   ` <k2j6160a5131004291644rd8645dc7oecee28ee290b683f@mail.gmail.com>
2010-04-30  0:59     ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-30  1:09 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-30 13:46   ` pl bossart
2010-04-30 22:51     ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-30  3:47 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-30 11:24 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-04-30 13:44   ` pl bossart [this message]
2010-05-06  1:24     ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-14  8:12     ` Takashi Iwai
2010-05-14 13:36       ` pl bossart
2010-05-14 21:03         ` pl bossart
2010-05-17  9:12           ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-17  9:14             ` [PATCH 1/3] add API to allow disabling " Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-17  9:23               ` Jassi Brar
2010-05-17 11:16                 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-17 11:27                   ` Jassi Brar
2010-05-17 14:42                     ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-05-17 16:05                       ` pl bossart
2010-05-17 16:22                         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-05-17 16:37                           ` pl bossart
2010-05-17 16:54                             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-05-18  9:11                       ` Jassi Brar
2010-05-17 13:59               ` pl bossart
2010-05-17  9:14             ` [PATCH 2/3] ALSA: hda-intel: add support for disabling period irq Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-17 14:05               ` pl bossart
2010-05-17  9:15             ` [PATCH 3/3] ALSA: oxygen: " Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-17 14:17             ` [RFC] disabling ALSA period interrupts pl bossart
2010-05-20 14:50           ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-04-30 16:44 ` Liam Girdwood
2010-04-30 17:39   ` pl bossart
2010-05-04  3:18     ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-07 23:25 ` [alsa-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2010-05-08  3:12   ` pl bossart
2010-05-12  4:00     ` pl bossart
2010-05-12 13:00       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-05-12 17:10         ` [alsa-devel] " pl bossart
2010-05-12 18:15           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-05-13  3:56             ` pl bossart
2010-05-12  7:22   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-05-12 12:42     ` pl bossart
2010-05-13  0:37       ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-14  0:43       ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-14  1:51         ` pl bossart
2010-05-14  2:45           ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-14  3:09           ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-14  4:03           ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-12 13:08 ` Jassi Brar
2010-05-12 13:50   ` [alsa-devel] " pl bossart
2010-05-12 14:15     ` Jassi Brar
2010-05-12 14:16     ` Mark Brown
2010-05-13  0:04       ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-14  4:07       ` Jassi Brar
2010-05-14  4:39         ` pl bossart
2010-05-14  5:27           ` Jassi Brar
2010-05-12 14:41     ` Raymond Yau
2010-05-13  7:27     ` Raymond Yau

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