From: Raymond Yau <superquad.vortex2@gmail.com>
To: ALSA Development Mailing List <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: "Resource temporarily unavailable" while reading although poll returns POLLIN event
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:10:06 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x2r4f3252891004260410gdd6f9f5ehc386c17d45aa9792@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BD54C98.9050806@gmail.com>
2010/4/26 Stefan Schoenleitner <dev.c0debabe@gmail.com>
> Raymond Yau wrote:
> > Are you sure that you really need pulseaudio since your request latency
> is
> > quite low ?
>
> You mean the small period_size of 160 frames or rather the buffer size
> of 2*period_size?
>
> In fact at 8kHz sampling rate a period_size of 160 equals a full 20ms of
> sound:
>
> duration of one frame: 1000ms / 8000Hz = 0.125ms = 125 us
> 160 frames * 125us = 20000us = 20ms
>
> This is by far more than a large period size holds at a higher sampling
> rate (e.g. 44.1 kHz).
>
But the period time of your sound card is 40.634ms which is more than double
of your requested 20ms
D: alsa-util.c: rate : 44100
D: alsa-util.c: exact rate : 44100 (44100/1)
D: alsa-util.c: msbits : 16
D: alsa-util.c: buffer_size : 3584
D: alsa-util.c: period_size : 1792
D: alsa-util.c: period_time : 40634
>
> To the question whether pulseaudio is needed:
> On the embedded target PA will not be used, but since development takes
> place on a PC, I need a soundcard that supports the mentioned audio
> format contraints.
> And at the moment this is pulseaudio which is the reason why I really
> need it for application development.
>
>
> However, we should try to not drift away from the actual problem which
> is that *poll() returns an event even if far less than avail_min frames
> are available*.
>
>
> > You have to ask PA developer whether PA support such low latecny ?
> >
> > PA (tsched=0 ) configure your sound card 1792 frames per period but your
> > application request for 160 frames per period
> >
> > You will need the PA expert to answer how PA server capture 1792 frames
> from
> > sound card and send it to your application
> >
> > : module-alsa-source.c: Using 2 fragments of size 7168 bytes, buffer
> > time is 81.27ms
> >
> > D: alsa-util.c: Its setup is:
> > D: alsa-util.c: stream : CAPTURE
> > D: alsa-util.c: access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
> > D: alsa-util.c: format : S16_LE
> > D: alsa-util.c: subformat : STD
> > D: alsa-util.c: channels : 2
> > D: alsa-util.c: rate : 44100
> > D: alsa-util.c: exact rate : 44100 (44100/1)
> > D: alsa-util.c: msbits : 16
> > D: alsa-util.c: buffer_size : 3584
> > D: alsa-util.c: period_size : 1792
> > D: alsa-util.c: period_time : 40634
> > D: alsa-util.c: tstamp_mode : ENABLE
> > D: alsa-util.c: period_step : 1
> > D: alsa-util.c: avail_min : 1792
> > D: alsa-util.c: period_event : 0
> > D: alsa-util.c: start_threshold : -1
> > D: alsa-util.c: stop_threshold : 8070450532247928832
> > D: alsa-util.c: silence_threshold: 0
> > D: alsa-util.c: silence_size : 0
> > D: alsa-util.c: boundary : 8070450532247928832
>
> This is how pulseaudio works *internally*.
> Hence it opens my hardware sound card "hw" with the above format.
> If sound it recorded/played back at a different sampling rate, PA
> converts it.
> If you play a prerecorded audio file that has been recorded at a
> different sampling rate, you can see that behavior.
>
After the sound driver capture 40.634 ms of audio , PA have to convert the
44100Hz stereo to 8000Hz mono
seem just add left + right to mono without halve the sum , you may hear
clipping if you are using line in instead of mic or PA clamp the output
D: resampler.c: Channel matrix:
D: resampler.c: I00 I01
D: resampler.c: +------------
D: resampler.c: O00 | 1.000 1.000
> What happens is:
>
> [sound application (e.g.. aplay)] ---(audio format of sound file)---> [
> PA plugin] --> [PA daemon] ---(audio format of PA)--> [soundcard]
>
> cheers,
> stefan
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-26 11:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-21 11:28 "Resource temporarily unavailable" while reading although poll returns POLLIN event Stefan Schoenleitner
2010-04-21 16:15 ` Stefan Schoenleitner
2010-04-21 17:18 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-04-22 10:09 ` Stefan Schoenleitner
2010-04-23 4:10 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-24 1:32 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-24 14:38 ` Stefan Schoenleitner
2010-04-24 23:43 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-26 7:52 ` Stefan Schoenleitner
2010-04-27 0:35 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-26 1:46 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-26 8:19 ` Stefan Schoenleitner
2010-04-26 11:10 ` Raymond Yau [this message]
2010-04-22 4:28 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-22 10:49 ` Stefan Schoenleitner
2010-04-23 7:45 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-23 11:16 ` Stefan Schoenleitner
2010-04-22 2:41 ` Raymond Yau
2010-04-22 10:15 ` Stefan Schoenleitner
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