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[142.68.57.212]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f26sm12590660qkl.119.2020.03.12.09.37.35 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Mar 2020 09:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jgg by mlx.ziepe.ca with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jCQpy-0008RM-Kv; Thu, 12 Mar 2020 13:37:34 -0300 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 13:37:34 -0300 From: Jason Gunthorpe To: Steven Price Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/hmm: Simplify hmm_vma_walk_pud slightly Message-ID: <20200312163734.GR31668@ziepe.ca> References: <5bd778fa-51e5-3e0c-d9bb-b38539b03c8d@arm.com> <20200312102813.56699-1-steven.price@arm.com> <20200312142749.GM31668@ziepe.ca> <58e296a6-d32b-bb37-28ce-ade0f784454d@arm.com> <20200312151113.GO31668@ziepe.ca> <689d3c56-3d19-4655-21f5-f9aeab3089df@arm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <689d3c56-3d19-4655-21f5-f9aeab3089df@arm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 18:08:46 +0000 X-BeenThere: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for AMD gfx List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Philip Yang , Ralph Campbell , John Hubbard , "Felix.Kuehling@amd.com" , "amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , Jerome Glisse , "dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org" , Christoph Hellwig Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: amd-gfx-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "amd-gfx" On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 04:16:33PM +0000, Steven Price wrote: > > Actually, while you are looking at this, do you think we should be > > adding at least READ_ONCE in the pagewalk.c walk_* functions? The > > multiple references of pmd, pud, etc without locking seems sketchy to > > me. > > I agree it seems worrying. I'm not entirely sure whether the holding of > mmap_sem is sufficient, I looked at this question, and at least for PMD, mmap_sem is not sufficient. I didn't easilly figure it out for the other ones I'm guessing if PMD is not safe then none of them are. > this isn't something that I changed so I've just > been hoping that it's sufficient since it seems to have been working > (whether that's by chance because the compiler didn't generate multiple > reads I've no idea). For walking the kernel's page tables the lack of > READ_ONCE is also not great, but at least for PTDUMP we don't care too much > about accuracy and it should be crash proof because there's no RCU grace > period. And again the code I was replacing didn't have any special > protection. > > I can't see any harm in updating the code to include READ_ONCE and I'm happy > to review a patch. The reason I ask is because hmm's walkers often have this pattern where they get the pointer and then de-ref it (again) then immediately have to recheck the 'again' conditions of the walker itself because the re-read may have given a different value. Having the walker deref the pointer and pass the value it into the ops for use rather than repeatedly de-refing an unlocked value seems like a much safer design to me. If this also implicitly relies on a RCU grace period then it is also missing RCU locking... I also didn't quite understand why walk_pte_range() skipped locking the pte in the no_vma case - I don't get why vma would be related to locking here. I also saw that hmm open coded the pte walk, presumably for performance, so I was thinking of adding some kind of pte_range() callback to avoid the expensive indirect function call per pte, but hmm also can't have the pmd locked... 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