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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com>
Cc: "Sebastian Wick" <sebastian.wick@redhat.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>,
	"Uma Shankar" <uma.shankar@intel.com>,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, "Joshua Ashton" <joshua@froggi.es>,
	Vitaly.Prosyak@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/17] drm/connector: Add enum documentation to drm_colorspace
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:59:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230308105944.05fb9377@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230307151107.49649-3-harry.wentland@amd.com>

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 10:10:52 -0500
Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com> wrote:

> From: Joshua Ashton <joshua@froggi.es>
> 
> To match the other enums, and add more information about these values.
> 
> v2:
>  - Specify where an enum entry comes from
>  - Clarify DEFAULT and NO_DATA behavior
>  - BT.2020 CYCC is "constant luminance"
>  - correct type for BT.601
> 
> Signed-off-by: Joshua Ashton <joshua@froggi.es>
> Signed-off-by: Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com>
> Reviewed-by: Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com>

Hi,

this effort is really good, but of course I still find things to
nitpick about. If there is no answer to my questions, then I would
prefer the documentation to spell out the unknowns and ambiguities.

> Cc: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
> Cc: Sebastian Wick <sebastian.wick@redhat.com>
> Cc: Vitaly.Prosyak@amd.com
> Cc: Uma Shankar <uma.shankar@intel.com>
> Cc: Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Joshua Ashton <joshua@froggi.es>
> Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> Cc: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
> ---
>  include/drm/drm_connector.h | 67 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 65 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/include/drm/drm_connector.h b/include/drm/drm_connector.h
> index 6d6a53a6b010..bb078666dc34 100644
> --- a/include/drm/drm_connector.h
> +++ b/include/drm/drm_connector.h
> @@ -363,13 +363,76 @@ enum drm_privacy_screen_status {
>  	PRIVACY_SCREEN_ENABLED_LOCKED,
>  };
>  
> -/*
> - * This is a consolidated colorimetry list supported by HDMI and
> +/**
> + * enum drm_colorspace - color space
> + *
> + * This enum is a consolidated colorimetry list supported by HDMI and
>   * DP protocol standard. The respective connectors will register
>   * a property with the subset of this list (supported by that
>   * respective protocol). Userspace will set the colorspace through
>   * a colorspace property which will be created and exposed to
>   * userspace.
> + *
> + * DP definitions come from the DP v2.0 spec
> + * HDMI definitions come from the CTA-861-H spec
> + *
> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_DEFAULT:
> + *   Driver specific behavior.
> + *   For DP:
> + *   	RGB encoded: sRGB (IEC 61966-2-1)
> + *   	YCbCr encoded: ITU-R BT.601 colorimetry format

Does this mean that HDMI behavior is driver-specific while DP behavior
is as defined?

Is it intentional that YCbCr encoding also uses different RGB-primaries
than RGB-encoded signal? (BT.601 vs. BT.709/sRGB)

Or do you need to be more explicit on which parts of each spec apply
(ColourPrimaries vs. TransferCharacteristics vs. MatrixCoefficients in
CICP parlance)?

E.g. BT.709/sRGB ColourPrimaries with BT.601 MatrixCoefficients.

> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_NO_DATA:
> + *   Driver specific behavior.
> + *   For HDMI:
> + * 	Sets "No Data" in infoframe

Does DEFAULT mean that something else than "No Data" may be set in the
HDMI infoframe?

If so, since these two have the same value, where is the difference? Is
DEFAULT purely an UAPI token, and NO_DATA used internally? Or NO_DATA
used only when crafting actual infoframe packets?

Should NO_DATA be documented to be a strictly driver-internal value,
and not documented with UAPI?

I am unclear if userspace is using these enum values directly, or do
they use the string names only.

> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_SMPTE_170M_YCC:
> + *   (HDMI)
> + *   SMPTE ST 170M colorimetry format

Does "colorimetry format" mean that the spec is used in full, for all
of ColourPrimaries, TransferCharacteristics and MatrixCoefficients?

If yes, good. If not, the wording misleads me.

> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_BT709_YCC:
> + *   (HDMI, DP)
> + *   ITU-R BT.709 colorimetry format
> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_XVYCC_601:
> + *   (HDMI, DP)
> + *   xvYCC601 colorimetry format
> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_XVYCC_709:
> + *   (HDMI, DP)
> + *   xvYCC709 colorimetry format

Btw. xvYCC are funny because they require limited quantization range
encoding, but use the foot- and headroom to encode out-of-nominal-range
values in order to expand the color gamut with negative and greater
than unity values.

Just for curiosity, is it in any way possible today to make use of that
extended color gamut through KMS? Has it ever been possible?

I mean, the KMS color pipeline assumes full-range RGB, so I don't see
any way to make use of xvYCC.

> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_SYCC_601:
> + *   (HDMI, DP)
> + *   sYCC601 colorimetry format
> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_OPYCC_601:
> + *   (HDMI, DP)
> + *   opYCC601 colorimetry format
> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_OPRGB:
> + *   (HDMI, DP)
> + *   opRGB colorimetry format
> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_BT2020_CYCC:
> + *   (HDMI, DP)
> + *   ITU-R BT.2020 Y'c C'bc C'rc (constant luminance) colorimetry format
> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_BT2020_RGB:
> + *   (HDMI, DP)
> + *   ITU-R BT.2020 R' G' B' colorimetry format
> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_BT2020_YCC:
> + *   (HDMI, DP)
> + *   ITU-R BT.2020 Y' C'b C'r colorimetry format
> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_DCI_P3_RGB_D65:
> + *   (HDMI)
> + *   SMPTE ST 2113 P3D65 colorimetry format
> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_DCI_P3_RGB_THEATER:
> + *   (HDMI)
> + *   SMPTE ST 2113 P3DCI colorimetry format
> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_RGB_WIDE_FIXED:
> + *   (DP)
> + *   RGB wide gamut fixed point colorimetry format
> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_RGB_WIDE_FLOAT:
> + *   (DP)
> + *   RGB wide gamut floating point
> + *   (scRGB (IEC 61966-2-2)) colorimetry format

Again, there is no way to actually make use of WIDE since the KMS color
pipeline is limited to the unit range color values, right? Or is it
possible by setting all color pipeline KMS properties to pass-through
and using a floating-point FB?

I suppose the FIXED vs. FLOAT has the exact same problems as BT2020_YCC
vs. BT2020_RGB, but I would be surprised if anyone cared.

> + * @DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY_BT601_YCC:
> + *   (DP)
> + *   ITU-R BT.601 colorimetry format
> + *   The DP spec does not say whether this is the 525 or the 625
> + *   line version.

Good to note that ambiguity here. :-)

Or maybe the DP spec writer was thinking about BT.709 ColourPrimaries
and BT.601 MatrixCoefficients...

>   */
>  enum drm_colorspace {
>  	/* For Default case, driver will set the colorspace */


Thanks,
pq

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-08  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-07 15:10 [PATCH v3 00/17] Enable Colorspace connector property in amdgpu Harry Wentland
2023-03-07 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 01/17] drm/connector: Convert DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY to enum Harry Wentland
2023-03-07 15:13   ` Simon Ser
2023-03-07 15:29     ` [PATCH v4 " Harry Wentland
2023-03-08  8:21       ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-03-07 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 02/17] drm/connector: Add enum documentation to drm_colorspace Harry Wentland
2023-03-08  8:59   ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]
2023-03-09  0:56     ` Sebastian Wick
2023-03-09 10:03       ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-03-09 20:23         ` Sebastian Wick
2023-05-24 17:00     ` Harry Wentland
2023-03-07 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 03/17] drm/connector: Deprecate split for BT.2020 in drm_colorspace enum Harry Wentland
2023-03-08  9:09   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-03-09  1:05     ` Sebastian Wick
2023-03-09  1:10       ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-05-24 17:01     ` Harry Wentland
2023-03-07 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 04/17] drm/connector: Pull out common create_colorspace_property code Harry Wentland
2023-03-07 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 05/17] drm/connector: Use common colorspace_names array Harry Wentland
2023-03-08  9:15   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-03-09  1:39   ` Sebastian Wick
2023-03-07 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 06/17] drm/connector: Print connector colorspace in state debugfs Harry Wentland
2023-03-08  9:19   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-03-07 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 07/17] drm/connector: Allow drivers to pass list of supported colorspaces Harry Wentland
2023-03-07 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 08/17] drm/amd/display: Always pass connector_state to stream validation Harry Wentland
2023-03-07 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 09/17] drm/amd/display: Register Colorspace property for DP and HDMI Harry Wentland
2023-03-08  9:24   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-05-24 18:16     ` Harry Wentland
2023-03-16  0:37   ` Sebastian Wick
2023-03-16  9:50     ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-03-16 10:07       ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-03-16 10:47         ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-03-16 11:34           ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-03-16 12:35             ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-03-16 21:13               ` Sebastian Wick
2023-03-16 23:01                 ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-03-17  8:53                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-03-17 12:50                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-03-17 13:35                       ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-03-17 13:53                         ` Joshua Ashton
2023-05-24 19:51                           ` Harry Wentland
2023-03-17 14:14                         ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-03-17 15:37                           ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-03-17 16:33                             ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-03-17 17:40                               ` Sebastian Wick
2023-03-17 18:38                                 ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-03-17 18:47                                   ` Sebastian Wick
2023-03-17 19:13                                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-03-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 10/17] drm/amd/display: Signal mode_changed if colorspace changed Harry Wentland
2023-03-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 11/17] drm/amd/display: Send correct DP colorspace infopacket Harry Wentland
2023-03-09  1:58   ` Sebastian Wick
2023-03-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 12/17] drm/amd/display: Always set crtcinfo from create_stream_for_sink Harry Wentland
2023-03-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 13/17] drm/amd/display: Add support for explicit BT601_YCC Harry Wentland
2023-03-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 14/17] drm/amd/display: Add debugfs for testing output colorspace Harry Wentland
2023-03-08  9:30   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-03-09  2:05   ` Sebastian Wick
2023-03-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 15/17] drm/amd/display: Add default case for output_color_space switch Harry Wentland
2023-03-08  9:35   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-03-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 16/17] drm/amd/display: Fallback to 2020_YCBCR if the pixel encoding is not RGB Harry Wentland
2023-03-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 17/17] drm/amd/display: Refactor avi_info_frame colorimetry determination Harry Wentland
2023-03-08  9:38 ` [PATCH v3 00/17] Enable Colorspace connector property in amdgpu Pekka Paalanen

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